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dieselcruiserhead · 08-29-2003, 12:28 PM

I know this weas posted again but I just had to do it again. On a scale of 1-10? -- absolutely insane...

Wheelin' height:

And street height...

Mr McGee · 08-29-2003, 12:58 PM

wtf is that?!?! a land cruiser on a John Deere chassis?!? thats fawkin sweet!

BJ On Roids · 08-29-2003, 02:46 PM

looks like a 60 on U1300s

anyways, i was just looking, and i dont think he will get full lock, but he prolly still has more turning angle than a stock cruiser

chef · 08-29-2003, 02:53 PM

53" michelins....

helocat · 08-29-2003, 02:54 PM

Is Peter going rear steer with that?

Mark

chef · 08-29-2003, 02:55 PM

If I remember right, and often I don't, he told me he was using to front mog axles...so, yes...

Toygeek · 08-29-2003, 02:56 PM

Wow that is a monster. How do air bags flex when they are aired up like that?

chef · 08-29-2003, 02:59 PM

Once again, if I recall right, the suspension is set up for mostly droop, so they don't need to flex up very much, but that's tunable by adding air, and if it's plumbed right, can be aired up or down on the fly. Peter's pretty sick, I'd expect him to have gone that route...

Toygeek · 08-29-2003, 03:07 PM

Yep, dude has a serious case of the MIB syndrome! Althought I gotta say, if I could do that, I WOULD

ROCK HUGGER · 08-29-2003, 03:38 PM

WOW, It looks mean

It looks alot different than it did when I had to weld it back together on Rubithon a couple years ago. That was a fun trip.

smalltimewheeler · 08-29-2003, 03:48 PM

Just think of the water crossings he can cross now, snorkel and ALL

BJ On Roids · 08-29-2003, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smalltimewheeler
Just think of the water crossings he can cross now, snorkel and ALL

he could float if those tyres weren't so heavy!

RustyNailJustin · 08-29-2003, 07:34 PM

That thing is sick more pics please.

Behemoth60 · 08-29-2003, 11:09 PM

Hey, that truck looks exactly like mine! Oh, wait.

So, those are indeed, 16.00R20 Michelins. (53")
Those are Unimog 406 axles (a front and a rear, so no rear steer).
I am at about 30 degrees of steering. I measured a stock LC at 28 Degrees. That's worked out much better than I had hoped.
Steering is full hydraulic.
Engine is a Toy 3.4L 3B with aftermarket Turbo est. 140HP/220lb-ft
Tranny is a H41. Tcase is 203/205
Gearing in the axles is 4.1 diffs, with 2.2 portal, for 9.075:1 in the axles.
Total crawl ration is 176:1
Total Groud Clearance to the lowest part of the diff is 23.5". To the bottom of the axle tube is 25".
Oh, and get this... how much lift did I need to fit those tires?... would you believe a grand total of 1.5" body lift? That's not exactly true, as there is about 5" of lift from the portal hubs, but that 6.5" is it. Even though the hood line is pretty much at eye level, the truck actually looks positively slammed when it is at ride height. The tires are 65% of the height of the truck!

Oh, and an answer to another question... the air bags suck when aired up. They droop nicely, which is what I want them for - the rig has only about 4" of compression at each wheel (plus whatever the 18" of sidewall will allow me) to soak up the bumps, but almost 16" of droop.

How does it all work... I don't know. It's driven a total of aprox 1meter so far. Seemed to work OK for that trip. I hope to get it out of the shop tomorrow for a very preliminary shake down. Perhaps a first trail test run next weekend.

And to Rock Hugger... I have fond memories of your welding assistance. I have my own Ready Welder now, so hopefully I can be a little more self repairing. This truck is a result of that Trip on the 'Con back in 2000, and the damage it suffered back then..

Few slightly more recent pics (with the grill/lights) at www.prairiedogparts.com/yabbse

Peter Straub

Mark '73 FJ40 · 08-30-2003, 09:10 AM

Peter, let me know when you go for that trial run.
I'll come.

08-29-2003, 12:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
dieselcruiserhead Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12758 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 4,651	Tippy-R I know this weas posted again but I just had to do it again. On a scale of 1-10? -- absolutely insane... Wheelin' height: And street height...

08-29-2003, 12:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr McGee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9216 Location: Kimberly, Wisconsin Posts: 1,830	wtf is that?!?! a land cruiser on a John Deere chassis?!? thats fawkin sweet! __________________ Nick Hietpas...1985-2003 Rest In Peace

08-29-2003, 02:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
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08-29-2003, 02:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
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08-29-2003, 02:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
chef Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13912 Location: columbia, mo Posts: 2,493	If I remember right, and often I don't, he told me he was using to front mog axles...so, yes... __________________ Visit [url]www.tlca.org[/url]; TLCA Member 6235 TLCA Prez Emeritus

08-29-2003, 02:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Toygeek Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2046 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 729	Wow that is a monster. How do air bags flex when they are aired up like that? __________________ 1987 Dodge Raider - Stock except for 30" tires 340K miles and counting

08-29-2003, 02:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
chef Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13912 Location: columbia, mo Posts: 2,493	Once again, if I recall right, the suspension is set up for mostly droop, so they don't need to flex up very much, but that's tunable by adding air, and if it's plumbed right, can be aired up or down on the fly. Peter's pretty sick, I'd expect him to have gone that route... __________________ Visit [url]www.tlca.org[/url]; TLCA Member 6235 TLCA Prez Emeritus

08-29-2003, 03:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Toygeek Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 2046 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 729	Yep, dude has a serious case of the MIB syndrome! Althought I gotta say, if I could do that, I WOULD __________________ 1987 Dodge Raider - Stock except for 30" tires 340K miles and counting

08-29-2003, 03:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
ROCK HUGGER Rock God Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4329 Location: Jackson CA Posts: 2,388	WOW, It looks mean It looks alot different than it did when I had to weld it back together on Rubithon a couple years ago. That was a fun trip.

08-29-2003, 03:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
smalltimewheeler Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14545 Location: phoenix,az Posts: 479	Just think of the water crossings he can cross now, snorkel and ALL

08-29-2003, 07:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
RustyNailJustin Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8568 Location: Klamath Falls,OR,Fruita,CO,Montrose,CO, Posts: 7,011	That thing is sick more pics please. __________________ 2012 KOH Team CrossedUp, ADS, Artec, Mike Klensin and Justin Reece. 9TH Place. 2011 LCQ to KOH Team CrossedUp Mike Klensin and Justin Reece. We finished 40th 2010 KOH Team CrossedUp Mike Klensin and Justin Reece. 2009 KOH Team 435 Finished 35th.First Full Frame/Full Body To Finish KOH. TLCA# 5305

08-29-2003, 11:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Behemoth60 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13584 Posts: 90	Hey, that truck looks exactly like mine! Oh, wait. So, those are indeed, 16.00R20 Michelins. (53") Those are Unimog 406 axles (a front and a rear, so no rear steer). I am at about 30 degrees of steering. I measured a stock LC at 28 Degrees. That's worked out much better than I had hoped. Steering is full hydraulic. Engine is a Toy 3.4L 3B with aftermarket Turbo est. 140HP/220lb-ft Tranny is a H41. Tcase is 203/205 Gearing in the axles is 4.1 diffs, with 2.2 portal, for 9.075:1 in the axles. Total crawl ration is 176:1 Total Groud Clearance to the lowest part of the diff is 23.5". To the bottom of the axle tube is 25". Oh, and get this... how much lift did I need to fit those tires?... would you believe a grand total of 1.5" body lift? That's not exactly true, as there is about 5" of lift from the portal hubs, but that 6.5" is it. Even though the hood line is pretty much at eye level, the truck actually looks positively slammed when it is at ride height. The tires are 65% of the height of the truck! Oh, and an answer to another question... the air bags suck when aired up. They droop nicely, which is what I want them for - the rig has only about 4" of compression at each wheel (plus whatever the 18" of sidewall will allow me) to soak up the bumps, but almost 16" of droop. How does it all work... I don't know. It's driven a total of aprox 1meter so far. Seemed to work OK for that trip. I hope to get it out of the shop tomorrow for a very preliminary shake down. Perhaps a first trail test run next weekend. And to Rock Hugger... I have fond memories of your welding assistance. I have my own Ready Welder now, so hopefully I can be a little more self repairing. This truck is a result of that Trip on the 'Con back in 2000, and the damage it suffered back then.. Few slightly more recent pics (with the grill/lights) at www.prairiedogparts.com/yabbse Peter Straub

08-30-2003, 09:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
Mark '73 FJ40 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2492 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 836	Peter, let me know when you go for that trial run. I'll come. __________________ I've spent a lot of money on trucks and beer. . .. . the rest I wasted.

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