WHich springs should I use for a SOA? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Tankota · 12-10-2001, 10:48 AM

I need more lift now that I've got bigger tires. I can currently fit 36" TSLs with no problems, however, my new 38.5s will not fit without more lift.

Before you answer the question as to which springs I should use (stock cruiser or wagoneer) , take a look at how the truck has been modified.

I've currently got a SOA using blazer springs (with a 2" body lift).

Reasons for using blazers springs:
1) I didn't have any stock cruiser springs (still don't)
2) my SUA lift springs were starting to sag a little and were longer than stock (at times my front shackle would go completely horizontal forwards)
3) My spring and shackle hangers and frame were all screwed up from some previous owners major HACK job
4) At the time I wanted a low profile (height wise) SOA. This SOA gives about 3.5" of lift.

If I use the wagoneers,
*the center pins are offset similar to a cruiser spring
*they are longer and easier to find in junkyards.

If I use the cruisers,
*they may give more lift than I need
* I may have to modify the mounts (PITA) for the springs to fit them on the cruiser)

What do you think?

wheelinjps gal · 12-10-2001, 06:36 PM

Waggy Waggy Waggy

Shawn · 12-10-2001, 06:42 PM

Wagoneer, and don't look back.

Red FJ · 12-11-2001, 09:24 AM

Use the Waggy springs, with the 7 leaves, worked out great on mine, SOA, 2.5" BL and riding on 38 SX's. Flexes like crazy.

Tankota · 12-11-2001, 10:04 AM

Tanks for the input.

I'm definitely leaning towards waggie springs...not sure if I'll use the 5 or the 7 leaf springs cause I do have a 2" body lift.

Wheelinjp, (posted as Wheelinjps gal by accident) has some springs he said I could try out just for fitment purposes, unfortunately they have to go back on the 1 ton wrangler he is building

. However, another friend does have a set of waggie springs that he recently got but decided to use something else instead...so I may have a line on some.

TRD · 12-11-2001, 01:16 PM

Are they just stock waggies from the junkyard? Did you take both the front and rear ?

wheelinjp · 12-11-2001, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRaker
Are they just stock waggies from the junkyard? Did you take both the front and rear ?

No not the rears for the fj40. Too long of a spring for a good approach/departure angle.These are fronts Tank and I are referring to.

Dave I am interested in seeing which will work best. I think it will be the 7leafs. The 5leafs I hear are weak and will sag or break soon.

Shawn · 12-11-2001, 06:07 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wheelinjp
[B]

No not the rears for the fj40. Too long of a spring for a good approach/departure angle.These are fronts Tank and I are referring to.

I run both front and rear on my Cruiser.
To long,,, No Way.

DCruiser138 · 12-11-2001, 08:11 PM

so when you do waggys..do you need get new hangers?..move them?..anything? or so they fit up allready? i know theyr longer...but long enough where you need to move the frame mount hangers? my springs are rusted to hell and might as well go waggy when i swap. probly not thouhg...i wish....

ranger · 12-11-2001, 09:43 PM

Whats the length on Waggy springs?

Tankota · 12-12-2001, 03:03 PM

Someone back me up on this but I think the waggies are 48".
Aren't the cruiser ones 45"?

Shawn · 12-12-2001, 08:19 PM

Cruiser springs Flat =48"
Front Wag springs Flat= 50"
Rear Wag springs Flat=57"

Flat means with weight on the spring.

Yes, if you use the rear wag springs you will need to relocate the hangers.

TRD · 12-13-2001, 11:59 AM

i see that the waggies are 2 inches longer. does it require moving the mounts?

12-10-2001, 10:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tankota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1159 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 1,861	WHich springs should I use for a SOA? I need more lift now that I've got bigger tires. I can currently fit 36" TSLs with no problems, however, my new 38.5s will not fit without more lift. Before you answer the question as to which springs I should use (stock cruiser or wagoneer) , take a look at how the truck has been modified. I've currently got a SOA using blazer springs (with a 2" body lift). Reasons for using blazers springs: 1) I didn't have any stock cruiser springs (still don't) 2) my SUA lift springs were starting to sag a little and were longer than stock (at times my front shackle would go completely horizontal forwards) 3) My spring and shackle hangers and frame were all screwed up from some previous owners major HACK job 4) At the time I wanted a low profile (height wise) SOA. This SOA gives about 3.5" of lift. If I use the wagoneers, the center pins are offset similar to a cruiser spring they are longer and easier to find in junkyards. If I use the cruisers, they may give more lift than I need I may have to modify the mounts (PITA) for the springs to fit them on the cruiser) What do you think?

12-10-2001, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
wheelinjps gal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8029 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,356	Waggy Waggy Waggy __________________ Everyday I add another name to my list of people that piss me off!!!! :mad3: Avatar in Loving memory of my Papa 10-28-28 to 02-26-02 I will always love you!! :(

12-10-2001, 06:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Shawn Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 77 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 1,406	Wagoneer, and don't look back. __________________ 74 FJ40 Buggy 454,TH400, STAK 3 Speed, 14 Bolt, Dana 60, etc

12-11-2001, 01:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
TRD Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8286 Location: Costa Mesa, Ca Posts: 4,684	Are they just stock waggies from the junkyard? Did you take both the front and rear ? __________________ -Ryan

12-11-2001, 06:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Shawn Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 77 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 1,406	[QUOTE]Originally posted by wheelinjp [B] No not the rears for the fj40. Too long of a spring for a good approach/departure angle.These are fronts Tank and I are referring to. I run both front and rear on my Cruiser. To long,,, No Way. __________________ 74 FJ40 Buggy 454,TH400, STAK 3 Speed, 14 Bolt, Dana 60, etc

12-11-2001, 09:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
Red FJ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1028 Location: Southern MD Posts: 284	Use the Waggy springs, with the 7 leaves, worked out great on mine, SOA, 2.5" BL and riding on 38 SX's. Flexes like crazy.

12-11-2001, 10:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tankota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1159 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 1,861	Tanks for the input. I'm definitely leaning towards waggie springs...not sure if I'll use the 5 or the 7 leaf springs cause I do have a 2" body lift. Wheelinjp, (posted as Wheelinjps gal by accident) has some springs he said I could try out just for fitment purposes, unfortunately they have to go back on the 1 ton wrangler he is building . However, another friend does have a set of waggie springs that he recently got but decided to use something else instead...so I may have a line on some.

12-11-2001, 08:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
DCruiser138 Rock God Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2619 Location: kings beach, CA Posts: 1,716	so when you do waggys..do you need get new hangers?..move them?..anything? or so they fit up allready? i know theyr longer...but long enough where you need to move the frame mount hangers? my springs are rusted to hell and might as well go waggy when i swap. probly not thouhg...i wish.... __________________ Dustin Crawford --- OPEN DIFF DEUSH'

12-11-2001, 09:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
ranger Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1282 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 4,819	Whats the length on Waggy springs?

12-12-2001, 03:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tankota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1159 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 1,861	Someone back me up on this but I think the waggies are 48". Aren't the cruiser ones 45"?

12-12-2001, 08:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Shawn Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 77 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 1,406	Cruiser springs Flat =48" Front Wag springs Flat= 50" Rear Wag springs Flat=57" Flat means with weight on the spring. Yes, if you use the rear wag springs you will need to relocate the hangers. __________________ 74 FJ40 Buggy 454,TH400, STAK 3 Speed, 14 Bolt, Dana 60, etc

12-13-2001, 11:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
TRD Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8286 Location: Costa Mesa, Ca Posts: 4,684	i see that the waggies are 2 inches longer. does it require moving the mounts? __________________ -Ryan

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