Dead turbo 400? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Toyota - Land Cruiser
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-24-2003, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
Dead turbo 400?

Well I think the turbo 400(behind a 350) in the 45 wagon bit the dust

Tell me what ya think.....

doesn't go forward......doesn't go reverse, in park it still rolls. Fluid doesn't look or smell burnt. Linkage works, when running and I put it into park(from drive) it makes a grinding whirling noise(doesn't sound very good

Don't know if it's related or not but today it started having a bit of a hicup and would die. So I changed the burnt points......then took it for a spin.....and it died again, got it started then it had no trany. In the last 2 weeks its worked like a charm, no slipage or any signs it's was on it's way out.

oh and I might have killed it myself, when it died once I rolled down a hill backward......me kinda thinks it was still in gear(or maybe not)

so as I know jack shit(but I'm gonna be learing I think) about auto tranies.....what ya all think?

John H(fixed 2 today.....lost one)
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Member # 6863
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,734
based on the descriptions, it almost sounds like the tranny is fine, but the adapter or the t-case is bad.

have you pulled the cover off the side of the t-case?

Something about the tranny making the whirling/grinding noises when you try tp put it in park makes me think the t-case is turning when it should be stopped(cause the truck is not moving...)

not sure, of course, but something is not adding up here.

-Brett
__________________
I have enough projects for the next decade. Need two?
cruiserbrett is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 10-24-2003, 07:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
texican's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Member # 12349
Location: Bonham Texas
Posts: 6,784
Re: Dead turbo 400?

Quote:
Originally posted by Landpimp
Well I think the turbo 400(behind a 350) in the 45 wagon bit the dust
maybe not)
John H(fixed 2 today.....lost one)
I'm thinkin' ya need to ship it to Texas, I'll pay ya what ya gave for it. As long as Hendrix is still in place..
Butch
__________________
Conflict is inevitable.....
Combat is optional....
Tires are like boobs, they always look big until you have played with them for a while, then you just want a bigger set.
[URL=http://www.lslc.org/]Lone Star Land Cruisers[/URL]
[URL=http://www.khyi.com/]Support Texas Music[/URL]
texican is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
Quote:
Originally posted by cruiserbrett
based on the descriptions, it almost sounds like the tranny is fine, but the adapter or the t-case is bad.

have you pulled the cover off the side of the t-case?

Something about the tranny making the whirling/grinding noises when you try tp put it in park makes me think the t-case is turning when it should be stopped(cause the truck is not moving...)

not sure, of course, but something is not adding up here.

-Brett
I havn't done anything, it's dark and I'm tired. But you got a real good point(that makes sense)...I'll look at the t-case saturday.........what should I be looking for.....beside the dumb owner putting it in nutral

whats in the adapter that could go out? I have never seen one before. and what should I look for behind the cover?

thanks
John
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Member # 12744
Location: NE
Posts: 62
SAME on what brett said,

try puttin transfercase in another mode, could have just came out or bent a fork. if still no go then open t case side, if spin input gear in t case then somthing there is wrong, if no spin in t case then broke something on the output side of the tranny, as with the noise from going from drive to park sounds like the tranny is working.

Please use two people and be careful
or jackstands, yuck, but be carelful
__________________
Please email as my pm box is always full.

H1 4U is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
Brett.....DUDE! so I went out and put it in low range.....and it moved.....then put it back in high......and it still moved I got no freakin clue what happend or what I did but it "seems" all is well the lever hadn't been touched sense the day I got it.....kinda wierd? oh and i feel like an idiot for not trying the t-case

no I got to figure out why its dying all of a sudden, started out of the blue! I took the old points off and they were welded together, replaced them(and cap/rotor) and it still died? maybe the fuel pump....or carb I suppose.

oh well.......she freakin moves so that make me damn happy

thanks

BTW I'm working on a pair of 45 wagons, the one you know about and one other.....I'll let ya know more offline when I do......no promises but....

John
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
Re: Re: Dead turbo 400?

Quote:
Originally posted by texican

I'm thinkin' ya need to ship it to Texas, I'll pay ya what ya gave for it. As long as Hendrix is still in place..
Butch
I KNEW that was coming
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
orangefj45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Member # 6816
Location: Fawk if I know
Posts: 15,103
you had the t-case in NEUTRAL!!!!
what a tool!
congrats again on the waggy!!!!!!!
__________________
Maybe you outta stick to legos!
orangefj45 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Member # 6863
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,734
Glad it works!

Been there done that before, although not with an auto.


If it keeps burning the points, or they look shitty even thought they are new, check the condensor. I have installed new points left the old condensor in and had bad points again.

what are the symptoms of it crapping out on you?
__________________
I have enough projects for the next decade. Need two?
cruiserbrett is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
You guys(that includes everyone on Pirate) know something? you all ROCK

I REALLY REALLY apreciate all the help I get here, I'm not a hardcore wheeler(but have been wheelin sense I was 14 years old) but just a dude who loves Cruisers and is not naturaly mechanicly inclined. No shit I think if it wernt for Pirate, IH8Mud and 3FE I don't know what the heck I would do.....prolly have a 2003 Cruiser with a warantee..........YUCK damn tax gal want me to buy a new Cruiser or something that qualifies for the farm use tax credit.....I don't want no new car

but really you guys are a big.....make that HUGE help

Thanks
John H
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 07:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
Quote:
Originally posted by orangefj45
you had the t-case in NEUTRAL!!!!
what a tool!
congrats again on the waggy!!!!!!!
no "I" didn't have it in nutral......somehow it got there by itself

and yes I am a tool

thanks........ I love that big ole hunk of metal
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 08:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16085
Location: Gig Harbor WA
Posts: 4,132
Quote:
Originally posted by cruiserbrett
Glad it works!

Been there done that before, although not with an auto.


If it keeps burning the points, or they look shitty even thought they are new, check the condensor. I have installed new points left the old condensor in and had bad points again.

what are the symptoms of it crapping out on you?
well it runs fine parked up to any rpm, then it;s fine when I pull out on the road......after a min or so it kinda hicups.....then dies and is a bitch to re-start. Just started last night. Heck I didn;t even see a condensor........but after finding I had a GM alt with external regulator.......that it DIDN"T have(no kiddin)......I wouldn't be shocked if there wasnt a condenser! I replace the externaly regulated alt with a GM one wire with internal reg........and it works like it should now.........I'll tell ya I have never bought a rig that had already been modified.......now I know why..........freakin PO Give me a stocker and I can fawk it up myself.....at least I know what I did

John H
__________________
2000UZJ100/92FJ80/90FJ62/86FJ60/82FJ40mustard/82FJ40green/78FJ55/67FJ45LBP/65FJ40LV/65FJ45LV/64FJ45LV/87 Chevy 3/4 ton beater
Landpimp is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 08:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Member # 6863
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,734
Well, given the list of sypmtoms, I would check the following:
Ignition:
-check the points again, and there should be a condensor (under the dist cap?) or it will toast points and have a mysteriously erratic and weak spark, which in cases I have seen is almost transparent under no load(not driving), but more apparent while driving... as for the explanation to the dies later, not sure.

-When you put the points in, you have to set the dwell first and timing second on the older style GM distributors, but with the window in the cap, it is easy with an 1/8"?? allen wrench. You can do it with a feeler gauge, but an dwell meter is much better. -Here is a decent description of doing it on older GM's distributors...

-Is the sprak strong? as in bluish, and not orange?

Fuel:
-Fuel delivery, not just the filter, but make sure there is good fuel flow from the tank...this is easy to tell by starting a siphon, be careful and do it outside...it will flow easily if nothing is block the pickup in hte tank. Typically the fuel pumps will leak out of the telltale hole(mechanical) if they fail internally, but you can check for a noticalbe gas smell in the engine oil too...
-could be vapor lock, but I really doubt it.

Those would be my first things to look at.
-Brett
__________________
I have enough projects for the next decade. Need two?
cruiserbrett is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 09:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
65-fj45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Member # 22259
Location: San Jose, Ca
Posts: 662
You realy need to get rid of that points dist. and get a nice G.M. HEI that will drop rite in, and never give you trouble.
__________________
78 fj40 350,nv4500,35's
65 fj45 350,sm420,4wdb,35's Alcans
2007 Black FJ Cruiser
1966 M416

-Mike
65-fj45 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-24-2003, 09:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
orangefj45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Member # 6816
Location: Fawk if I know
Posts: 15,103
yeah, what he said!

and that is the truth. hei is the only way to go!!!!
__________________
Maybe you outta stick to legos!
orangefj45 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply





Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.