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Old 08-23-2001, 04:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I already own a TJ that I am building up but have recently been tempted to the dark side by a toy. What sort of things do I need to look out for if I go and have a look at it in person? Does this seem well set up? does to me but then I only know jeeps. What else would need to be done to make it a hardcore trail rig? How would it go on-road? Could it be chopped to make it open and then put a full cage etc.
Price is around US$4500

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q78 swampers in the photo, but now fitting 38 " tyres, Bilstien shocks, Late 4speed and tranny case, 3 to 1 low range gears and a 96.5" w/base with front & rear ARB lockers.

Makes around 430hp, and 450 ft lbs, and gets 16mpg










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Old 08-23-2001, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1997? didn't know they made 40's that new.

a 454 seems a bit much for the stock tranny and tcase. those that have utilized that large an engine successfully, seem to have beefed up the other drive train parts some to handle the torque available with a 454. other than that, seems like a usable rig.
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Old 08-23-2001, 05:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i'd say that is an excellent deal...
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Old 08-23-2001, 05:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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spare
set of g/box t/case/diff/35x12.5mud terrains as well as many other parts
if wanted.

Somehow he has managed to get good flex out of the leafs as well. hehe.

What would the upgrade path be for the tcase/tranny etc. to make it strong enough to support that sort of hp/torque? How would the axles hold up as well? infamous birfield joints? redline kit cost if that would be a problem? Wasn't there also an older Warn kit?

thanks for helping with all the newbie like questions <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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sounds and looks like a killer deal 2 me! as far as the redline or warn kits...the warn kit is discontinued and i personally think its cheeper to throw in a dana 44 than mess w/ the redline. just my opinion. sell the toy axle w/ the arb and youd prob be able to pay off a used 44 easy. i guess...im talkin from a second hand perspective, i havent done this. hope that helps a bit <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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I've seen that Cruiser before, didn't it used to be Darren McRae's??

Top's easy to take off, no modifications needed.
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Old 08-23-2001, 06:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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<STRONG>I've seen that Cruiser before, didn't it used to be Darren McRae's??

Top's easy to take off, no modifications needed.</STRONG>

ding, ding, ding, give a prize to the lucky man. He mentioned he might be selling it on a mailing list so I thought I would ask a few toy related questions to see what I think. The only thing is my TJ is only a tuch smaller on 35's. No v8 though...hehe
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No ...thats a terrible deal.... you'd better send it to me out west. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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yeah, terrible deal, don't touch it, send it to sydney and i'll relieve him of it <IMG SRC="smilies/emb.gif" border="0">
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Sounds like a pretty good deal.

Don't throw rocks now......

If you're concerned about the drivetrain why not pull the motor and put in a diesel? Then you're not as likely to break stuff from the big block and you get an excellent engine for a cruiser.

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aha - wonder how easy it would be to get that v8 into the TJ? hmmmm
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Quote:
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<STRONG>aha - wonder how easy it would be to get that v8 into the TJ? hmmmm</STRONG>
Hehehe SAWZALL!!!

Anything's possible <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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Old 08-24-2001, 12:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You couldn't build it for $4500 if someone gave you a stock rig to start with. It sounds like a steal to me. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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well hurry and buy it before somone else gabs it, an't go wrong even if you were to wreck it out.

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16 mpg? <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

Other than that, giddy up!!!
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Old 09-09-2001, 10:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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<STRONG>sounds and looks like a killer deal 2 me! as far as the redline or warn kits...the warn kit is discontinued and i personally think its cheeper to throw in a dana 44 than mess w/ the redline. just my opinion. sell the toy axle w/ the arb and youd prob be able to pay off a used 44 easy. i guess...im talkin from a second hand perspective, i havent done this. hope that helps a bit <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
pretty hard to find any axles - dana ones anyways. Donor vehicles are very thin on the ground down here in Oz.

Got a few more specs for the rig, it is running Q78's at the moment but apparently can fit 38's. Anyone know how high a 44gallon drum is and if there is a way to work out an RTI from the 97" wheelbase x the drum height?


FJ40

ss 454, 4 bolt, torker manifold, "special" cam, ovalport hand ported heads,850qjet carby,Flat top pistons, high vol oil pump, hand made extractors,
60 series springs with front shackle reversed,
full cage,
75 series power steering,
4 wheel disc brakes,
8000 highmount,
twin batteries mounted behind the seat,
120lt fuel tank,
twin snorkels,
q78 swampers in the photo, but now fitting 38 " tyres,
Bilstien shocks,
60 series g/box and t/case [rebuilt] with 2.3 to 1 l/r gears and 411 diffs
Toyota hzj rear with arb locker, and toyota front with arb locker
96.5" wheel base.

Fit hzj 75 cv's to help beef the axles up.

16mpg

yep, still has cv's, this is second 40 Ive had, never broken a 40 cv yet,
but in the states quite common, front locker breaks them

60 series g/box and t/case [rebuilt] with 2.3 to 1 l/r gears and 411 diffs

Revolver shackles would add about 6" travel

The shorty drives really well, handles well, stops well, and climbs well, we have
extended the wheelbase to 97 inches, 60 series springs, and large bush hangers


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any idea what the crawl ratio would be? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

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Zach Buy it n then sell the winch n the Q78`s to me <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Plus I have E mailed you about what I have seen with this rig, but that was 12 months ago n I think he had only just finished building it then so might have just been teathing prob`s.

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Too bad the steering wheel is on the wrong side. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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That sounds like Darren McRae's 40. He's on the 80 series list.

Oops. I see after reading the rest of the thread that it IS Darren's <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> .

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<STRONG>Zach Buy it n then sell the winch n the Q78`s to me <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Plus I have E mailed you about what I have seen with this rig, but that was 12 months ago n I think he had only just finished building it then so might have just been teathing prob`s.

[ 09-10-2001: Message edited by: Guts ]</STRONG>

You can have the stinkin Q78's if you can find me a good price on some 38.5's. mmm good! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> The high mount is mine as well, either on the fj or on the tj.
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