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1970cruiser · 08-17-2001, 07:16 AM

Nolen it is Matt, With your Alcan lift are you burning up pinion gears? If so, why? Also if I get your Alcans, could I take out the bottom spring on the pack to correct this problem and lower the lift? I do not think that I want to run 7", mayby around 6" or less of lift. <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0">

wngrog · 08-17-2001, 09:20 AM

The reason I burned my pinnion bearing is a combination of a few factors:
1) My rear driveline is 8 inches shorter than it was before I installed the Atlas making the angle terrible from the transfer case to the pinion.

2) I have the rear pinion indexed up AND I have 4 degree shims in it. You will not need to index yours with the Lift these springs provide and your current axle location.

3) I had all these problems and I still drove it on the street to the trail. I knew I was in the danger zone, but I did not have a way to get it to the trail that day and I HAD to wheel <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> A $300 mistake!

As for taking the bottom leafs out. That is your decision. After I took them out, the ride/Flex got MUCH better, especially in the rear. As for lift, it only lowered the Cruiser about 1 inch.

TLCObsession · 08-17-2001, 12:09 PM

You can relocate the fill plug to eliminate this issue. This is commonly done on SOA 60 Series fronts since the pinion is rotated up a good bit.

Cut a 1" x 2.5" section off that includes youfill plug and the area above it. then flip it 180 and MIG it back in.

Otherwise you can park on a steep downhill when you fill (cheesy).

My $0.02

Jim

wngrog · 08-17-2001, 12:14 PM

I took off my breather nut and filled it until it was full. THere is no way to relocate the fill plug and fix the mess I am in on my rear axle pinion angle except to put in a RC D60! <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

08-17-2001, 07:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
1970cruiser Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4794 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 194	Paging Wngrog (Nolen) Nolen it is Matt, With your Alcan lift are you burning up pinion gears? If so, why? Also if I get your Alcans, could I take out the bottom spring on the pack to correct this problem and lower the lift? I do not think that I want to run 7", mayby around 6" or less of lift. <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/jeep1.gif" border="0"> __________________ 70 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40, 400HP 327, SM465, 3SPD T-Case, 38" TSL SX's, 15x10 MT's etc.... and more to come. 82 Toy 4x4 Truck, 4" lift, 33's, 150HP 22R, rebuilt 5spd and Tcase, stainless braided brake lines, powder coated frame....and more to come.

08-17-2001, 09:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,056 Blog Entries: 4	The reason I burned my pinnion bearing is a combination of a few factors: 1) My rear driveline is 8 inches shorter than it was before I installed the Atlas making the angle terrible from the transfer case to the pinion. 2) I have the rear pinion indexed up AND I have 4 degree shims in it. You will not need to index yours with the Lift these springs provide and your current axle location. 3) I had all these problems and I still drove it on the street to the trail. I knew I was in the danger zone, but I did not have a way to get it to the trail that day and I HAD to wheel <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> A $300 mistake! As for taking the bottom leafs out. That is your decision. After I took them out, the ride/Flex got MUCH better, especially in the rear. As for lift, it only lowered the Cruiser about 1 inch. __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

08-17-2001, 12:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
TLCObsession Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3245 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 1,131	You can relocate the fill plug to eliminate this issue. This is commonly done on SOA 60 Series fronts since the pinion is rotated up a good bit. Cut a 1" x 2.5" section off that includes youfill plug and the area above it. then flip it 180 and MIG it back in. Otherwise you can park on a steep downhill when you fill (cheesy). My $0.02 Jim __________________ Never subscribe to a conspiracy theory when the stupidity theory will suffice.

08-17-2001, 12:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,056 Blog Entries: 4	I took off my breather nut and filled it until it was full. THere is no way to relocate the fill plug and fix the mess I am in on my rear axle pinion angle except to put in a RC D60! <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

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