Need a SLEDGE HAMMER to fix LV brakes - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Land Cruiser Junky · 10-11-2004, 08:42 PM

Got 3 out of 4 drums off the LV today over at Mark's Off Road. 1 came off easy, the other 2 took a lot of work to remove 'cause they were rusted on. Seems wheels are a great place for Black Widow spiders to live in California. Found some and a lot of other crap inside each wheel. Driver rear drum aint coming off for nothing. Wheel won't turn, drum won't budge. Any suggestions other than cracking the drum with a sledge? Oh yeah, and the brake line won't untread either.

GreenPig · 10-11-2004, 08:54 PM

stick a long cheater bar between the studs to twist the axle loose.

orangefj45 · 10-11-2004, 09:05 PM

isn't there a threaded hole in the drums? you should be able to put a slide hammer on it and knock that fawker loose. also, try heating the drum up around the outside perimiter, where the shoes would ride, that should help crack it loose.

JUST KEEP HITTN' IT!

4x4Poet · 10-11-2004, 10:01 PM

Am I missing something here? I thought one could just remove the axle from the housing in order to attack the drum/axle flange off the vehicle. Say, then press it off.

65SWB45 · 10-11-2004, 10:06 PM

Drum is not stuck to the axle shaft, but to the shoes.

Pin Head · 10-11-2004, 10:27 PM

You should be able to turn the drum with a cheater. Heating the drum with a rose bud to about 300-400F and then banging on it has worked for me. The threaded hole in the drum tends to just strip out on the stuck ones.

4x4Poet · 10-12-2004, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 65SWB45

Drum is not stuck to the axle shaft, but to the shoes.

Aha...Now that's stuck.

Thanks, Mark.

I'll slam my slow noggin into the wall here and hope the vibration works your way to loose up that drum.

Edit: Hey! I thought of something. If you don't care about warping the drum, how 'bout putting a big C-clamp or some such clamp on each side of the drum to flex it against the shoes and break loose the linings?

Ah, come on. That' not the dummest idea you've ever heard!

No better than the sledgehammer idea, huh?

cruiserbrett · 10-12-2004, 07:20 AM

I thought you were able to drive it? Will it drag the wheel if you roll it? since you are not worried about the shoes at this point I would guess, spray a bunch of pentrant in the adjuster holes and put the truck on the ground and roll it back and forth. the penetrant should help free up the shoes and let the drum slide off fairly easily in comparison...

The other thing to do is pull the diff cover, pull the c-clip and rock the wheel and axle/drum off.

cruzer75 · 10-12-2004, 10:19 AM

i could never get the drums off the front of my 75LC i ended up welding all thread to the drums and then using a piece of sign post across the middle and tightend it down with an air gun. worked ok would break the welds though more often than not. Then i figured out if i drilled Two holes in the backing plate i could get a punch in there and just hammer the SOB out from the back....i am so fawking glad i have disks in the fron now...can't wait to get the backs done between now and the time i kick the bucket.

Stew

cruzer75 · 10-12-2004, 10:26 AM

i could never get the drums off the front of my 75LC i ended up welding all thread to the drums and then using a piece of sign post across the middle and tightend it down with an air gun. worked ok would break the welds though more often than not. Then i figured out if i drilled Two holes in the backing plate i could get a punch in there and just hammer the SOB out from the back....i am so fawking glad i have disks in the front now...can't wait to get the backs done between now and the time i kick the bucket.

Stew

theSherpa · 10-12-2004, 12:03 PM

Hey, Gene! Chef and I were just sledgehammering drums off his LV this weekend, deja vu! OTOH, his came off after just 2 or 3 hours of work

Steve

Land Cruiser Junky · 10-12-2004, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theSherpa

Hey, Gene! Chef and I were just sledgehammering drums off his LV this weekend, deja vu! OTOH, his came off after just 2 or 3 hours of work

Steve

Fourth drum is off! Sledge-o-matic.

dd113 · 10-12-2004, 08:48 PM

I had a ft drum on a '72 weld itself to the shoes. I ended up welding a 10 lb slide hammer to the drum and went to town.

chef · 10-13-2004, 06:30 AM

Dumb question: you did back the adjusters all the way off?

65SWB45 · 10-13-2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chef

Dumb question: you did back the adjusters all the way off?

Adjusters?

orangefj45 · 10-13-2004, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Land Cruiser Junky

Fourth drum is off! Sledge-o-matic.

destruction pics please!!!!

10-11-2004, 08:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Land Cruiser Junky Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28463 Location: California Posts: 749	Need a SLEDGE HAMMER to fix LV brakes Got 3 out of 4 drums off the LV today over at Mark's Off Road. 1 came off easy, the other 2 took a lot of work to remove 'cause they were rusted on. Seems wheels are a great place for Black Widow spiders to live in California. Found some and a lot of other crap inside each wheel. Driver rear drum aint coming off for nothing. Wheel won't turn, drum won't budge. Any suggestions other than cracking the drum with a sledge? Oh yeah, and the brake line won't untread either. __________________ Saline Valley Desert . . . Home Sweet Home

10-11-2004, 09:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
orangefj45 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6816 Location: Fawk if I know Posts: 15,280	isn't there a threaded hole in the drums? you should be able to put a slide hammer on it and knock that fawker loose. also, try heating the drum up around the outside perimiter, where the shoes would ride, that should help crack it loose. JUST KEEP HITTN' IT! __________________ Maybe you outta stick to legos!

10-11-2004, 10:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34756 Posts: 1,464	Am I missing something here? I thought one could just remove the axle from the housing in order to attack the drum/axle flange off the vehicle. Say, then press it off. __________________ <>< Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

10-11-2004, 10:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
65SWB45 Desert Rat Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27432 Location: going 45 Posts: 3,691	Drum is not stuck to the axle shaft, but to the shoes. __________________ MarksOffRoad.net Originally Posted by lc tpi ...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them. 65SWB45, 64LWB45, 68FJ40, 72VJ40, 76K5, 73Sub454, 97Sub5.7, 2002 Trailblazer tlca #1086 member: Trail Crew-L.A. TLCA, Elwood Chapter, TLCA

10-12-2004, 07:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
cruiserbrett Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6863 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,797	I thought you were able to drive it? Will it drag the wheel if you roll it? since you are not worried about the shoes at this point I would guess, spray a bunch of pentrant in the adjuster holes and put the truck on the ground and roll it back and forth. the penetrant should help free up the shoes and let the drum slide off fairly easily in comparison... The other thing to do is pull the diff cover, pull the c-clip and rock the wheel and axle/drum off. __________________ I have enough projects for the next decade. Need two?

10-11-2004, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
GreenPig Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16720 Location: Kyrgyzstan Posts: 1,150	stick a long cheater bar between the studs to twist the axle loose.

10-11-2004, 10:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pin Head Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4783 Location: Orange Co. CA Posts: 1,797	You should be able to turn the drum with a cheater. Heating the drum with a rose bud to about 300-400F and then banging on it has worked for me. The threaded hole in the drum tends to just strip out on the stuck ones.

10-12-2004, 10:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
cruzer75 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16339 Location: New England Posts: 511	i could never get the drums off the front of my 75LC i ended up welding all thread to the drums and then using a piece of sign post across the middle and tightend it down with an air gun. worked ok would break the welds though more often than not. Then i figured out if i drilled Two holes in the backing plate i could get a punch in there and just hammer the SOB out from the back....i am so fawking glad i have disks in the fron now...can't wait to get the backs done between now and the time i kick the bucket. Stew __________________ 75FJ40 cut, welded, and beaten

10-12-2004, 10:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
cruzer75 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16339 Location: New England Posts: 511	i could never get the drums off the front of my 75LC i ended up welding all thread to the drums and then using a piece of sign post across the middle and tightend it down with an air gun. worked ok would break the welds though more often than not. Then i figured out if i drilled Two holes in the backing plate i could get a punch in there and just hammer the SOB out from the back....i am so fawking glad i have disks in the front now...can't wait to get the backs done between now and the time i kick the bucket. Stew __________________ 75FJ40 cut, welded, and beaten

10-12-2004, 12:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
theSherpa Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21374 Location: Columbia, Missouri Posts: 297	Hey, Gene! Chef and I were just sledgehammering drums off his LV this weekend, deja vu! OTOH, his came off after just 2 or 3 hours of work Steve __________________ The carpet which is asked the interior company of the taxi. General covers the vinyl epidermis on the mat (the taxi) technique. With popularity skeleton pastel color. If it is shift of the underwater flower, invincible. -- from "Teaching Ingrish as a Second Language"

10-12-2004, 08:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
dd113 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19837 Location: atlanta Posts: 1,371	I had a ft drum on a '72 weld itself to the shoes. I ended up welding a 10 lb slide hammer to the drum and went to town. __________________ If it does not go easy just force it David Dearborn Atlanta GA www.urbanlandcruisers.com TLCA Associate member Got a question, need an opinion, do you love puppies, just want to talk or stage a cage match? For all of these issues and more PM Mark, 65SWB45.

10-13-2004, 06:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
chef Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13912 Location: columbia, mo Posts: 2,493	Dumb question: you did back the adjusters all the way off? __________________ Visit [url]www.tlca.org[/url]; TLCA Member 6235 TLCA Prez Emeritus

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