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Old 03-02-2005, 11:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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the other Mark- sliders coming

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step away from the sawsall mark!
Toploader wasn't the only one wielding a sawsall lately. I know to a Pirate guy this looks like nothing, but I had to think really hard before I did it. My Faultline sliders will be done real soon. I may have to trim a little more to balance out the sliders.

It's like pismojim said " If it weren't for shoplights, pizza and trip deadlines, we'd never get our junk together."
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...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them.

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great pic!


i don't see any sandals!?
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You cut cruiser sheetmetal???? Oh my Gawd! Is that Ruftoys? I think the earth just changed it's axis
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That looks like a toe nail clipping compared to my cut job.

Good to see Simon is getting the sliders out....oh shit, did I start something?
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Now you gone and dunnit..... Went and cut your first Toyota sheet metal. Soon your rig will look like Kowboy's.

Where exactly did you cut?
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This is *exactly* how it starts. Fersure you're infected now.

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Old 03-03-2005, 12:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sliders Are On!

Well, I can't tell you how long I waited for these, but they are finally done and they ROCK! They are not Simon's usual sliders, but they were based on an idea I had in my head. Of course as soon as they were on the truck, I started getting more ideas. Don't know where it will go from here other than that there will be a second frame reinforcement that will incorporate a stiffener over the top of the rear spring hangers.

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...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them.

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Simon just came up with a new heavy-duty mounting system [I think tlc ghost helped with it] that incorporates 1/2" steel plates that have countersunk 1/2" bolts so that the sliders can be bolted and unbolted from the frame. It's kind of our inside joke, but here's a close up with the now infamous 'POS' welding [Simon, you know I am in awe]
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Originally Posted by lc tpi
...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them.

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Now I just got to find time to get some paint on em. I need pismojim's mantra.
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...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them.

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THAT IS NICE!!!

I like the way they mount. I always wondered why people seem to believe that a single weld around a 2" tube is stronger than 4 bolts in a wide pattern throught the frame..
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How much did you cut off the rockers?
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This is *exactly* how it starts. Fersure you're infected now.

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Mark? Where's Mark?




He's gone....






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Nice design. Looks like they were worth the wait.
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How much did you cut off the rockers?
I dunno Kent. I cut the rockers many years ago, just never got around to any protection for them until last year. I think it was 2".

The problem was, I never cut the fenders!
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Originally Posted by lc tpi
...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them.

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my sliders bolt to the frame very similar to yours. I haven't welded the plate to the frame though, just bolts alone. Do you think I ought to go back and weld them too?

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my sliders bolt to the frame very similar to yours. I haven't welded the plate to the frame though, just bolts alone. Do you think I ought to go back and weld them too?

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Troy, I am a mechanic, not a fabricator. While I do a little fabricating in my shop, I don't pretend to know this stuff like Simon or MANY of the others on the board. Mace, Mangler, Gunmetalcruz, Texican, wngrog, heavytlc, cruiserbrett,etc........these guys all have WAY MORE fab experience than me. I have read their posts religiously for a year now, and the impression that I get is that bolting is better than welding, especially as Mace pointed out, if you're using plates like the ones Simon made for me.

I was up in SLO a couple of weeks ago at Hanna and took another look at the custom sh-t he's made for pismojim. It's all bolt-on too. Just my .02
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Originally Posted by lc tpi
...if I have to buy them from Trail Gear I guess I dont need them.

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My sliders are welded to the frame and they have held up just fine. Looks good though now you just need to SOA it and get some 37's
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What did Simon charge for those sliders? I need a pair and almost have the cash...maybe.

$$$$?
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Your sliders look great!

Please correct me if I am wrong but these are neither welded to the frame or bolted to the frame? It looks like there is a scab plate with "studs" that was welded to the frame and then the sliders bolt to that... right? I am looking at having sliders made for my 55 and I am still unsure if which way is "correct" attaching to the body or the frame? Maybe someone will ring in with experience on both methods.

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..and the impression that I get is that bolting is better than welding, especially as Mace pointed out, if you're using plates like the ones Simon made for me...
I thought that was because a vertical weld on the frame creates a potential fracture point? You have a vertical weld on the frame now with that plate.
I did kinda the same thing with my sliders though, in terms of bolting to the frame. I like the idea of being able to remove them if need be. Yours will probably loosen up less than mine. I didnt weld a plate to the frame, just drilled 4 holes and bolted through it. Not sure which is best.

I like them. Looks great!

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What did Simon charge for those sliders? I need a pair and almost have the cash...maybe.

$$$$?
That's hard to say. I am lucky enough to be good enough at what I do best to have bartered with Simon for the sliders. I think the price would also depend on whether you were standing over his shoulders like I was [price usually goes up!] and leaning on him to get 'er done in one marathon morning.[Thanks to tlc ghost for letting me butt in line!]

My gut tells me that the installed price on a set like this would be $400ish. One of the guys at Monroe's, another good shop in our area, said they would be in that price range to fab and install as well.

Simon also has a production-line slider that is more economical. There is no picture on his website currently, but he's got a pair on Kelly O' Conner's truck out in the lot RIGHT NOW. Maybe he will read this thread and post a pic here AND ON HIS WEBSITE.

There are other guys out there making sliders like Slee, Mudrak and Hanna. I prefer to recommend and support shops like this who are small like me and are part of the LC community.
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I think you can easily take Grog and Myself off of that list of fabricators

There is no "correct" way. At least not really. Welds work just fine. Mine are just bolted directly to the frame. But the downtube is welded to a plate. The main reason I did mine the way I did was so I could make them easily removeable. Basically the same as Choreboy...


The vertical weld thing is a fact. However, in a lot of ways we are governed by waht we have to do. Not what "should" be done. So there are a bunch of times that a vertical weld is what we get. An angle across the frame is a beter way to do it.

I have only seen 1 vertical weld fail on a cruiser frame. And that was because it was a crappy weld and it was a butt weld that connected the frame horn to rest of the frame about where the front xmember is.. I have welded a bunch of vertical passes on my frame. So far no worries..
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paint is on

Now I REALLY like 'em.
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