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Old 06-19-2006, 04:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4.7 Marlin Crawlers in the Bash Buggy

I just buttoned up the 4.7 case today into the bash Buggy and took it for a spin.

Wow, I cannot believe what a difference those gears make. I cannot see a single instance when I am really crawling in the big technical stuff where I will need to use the gas to climb up something steep.

Running just the rear case is so close in gearing now to the old Low/Low setup with the stock gears in both cases that it does not feel like I am losing anything, just gaining a set of stupid low gears when I engage the front case.

This install comes on the heals of my latest Tcase breakage. I upgraded the front input from 21 to 23 spline and that put the weak spot at the rear on the cryo shaft at the flange. I snapped that last time I went out.

I purchased one of Bobby Long's 4340 output shafts for the mini-truck case to hopefully eliminate the tcase breakage that I have been having.

We are planning a July 1st day trip with the Blacksheep to Clayton to test it out.
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Are you still running a toy 4 cyl? I wonder how that setup would be
behind a 350?
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Are you still running a toy 4 cyl? I wonder how that setup would be
behind a 350?
Mace is running the dual Marlin setup behind his Turbo 2F and my buddy Lance is running it behind a 302.

I think the Mini cases are just OK personally. I have broken them twice now.

If you have an automatic, the shock on the drivetrain is much less and the tcase will take more abuse. Also if you have deeper gears than I do (4.11)

I myself would go another direction if I were building this buggy from scratch. Powerglide to Atlas would be my #1 choice.
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I myself would go another direction if I were building this buggy from scratch. Powerglide to Atlas would be my #1 choice.

bash buggy buildup planning V2.0 begins.....


nolan, take lots of pics!!!


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I am really pleased with it like it is. The next major item is Jim A's Sunray 9" rear axle. He is going to a rear steer 1610 axle soon and I am gonna use his old axle with a Hi9 aluminum 3rd. That way I can run 5.13's in the diffs to take some stress off the tcases.

That should do it.

If I am still breaking then V2.0 might just start
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stop molesting that drivetrain and don't even think about changing that engine!

i'm glad you're happy with the 4.7s. when i drove that rig in AZ i was very impressed with it's performance but thought that the only thing i'd change would be to go to the lower t-case gears.

i'm definetly hitching a short ride with you next year at katemcy. hopefully i'll have my own buggy running by then.
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stop molesting that drivetrain and don't even think about changing that engine!
Doncha think it needs a Supercharger though
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I just buttoned up the 4.7 case today into the bash Buggy and took it for a spin.

Wow, I cannot believe what a difference those gears make. I cannot see a single instance when I am really crawling in the big technical stuff where I will need to use the gas to climb up something steep.
Or, thank goodness, your clutch....



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ya, what ever...

the title would have read much better like this...

Stupid low gears installed for Rubithon!
Hi everyone! I have installed the Marlin gears just in time to leave for Rubithon. They are stupid low but will make the Rubithon an awesome ride. Matter of fact, I am donating a dual case to the Rubithon Raffle because I am so pleased and Tony is such an awesome guy.

Love, Nolan

Ya, that would have read much better.

but... I do love my Marlin gears and I am sure you will be amazed. Bummed you could not make it. And I don't say that to many.

Nicely done...
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Doncha think it needs a Supercharger though
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COOL! I really want one of those babies!

Tony.....next year hopefully.....
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the title would have read much better like this...

Stupid low gears installed for Rubithon!
Hi everyone! I have installed the Marlin gears just in time to leave for Rubithon. ...

Couldn't agree more with THAT statement, Tony
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fo sho, or to be even cooler, a little turbo for that little motor, cause turbos are more bling if ya ask me

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OK, I got to really put the new 4.7s to the test this weekend at Clayton.

We wan some really nice trails and let me tell you, I am sold. The lowere gearset in combo with the stock doubler is the perfect combo for this car.

177:1 is the final drive and it allows me to idle up everything. Hell, I put it in gear and let it walk up the 5' + retaining wall at my house.

Getting the "You are a fawking idiot" look from the Redhead.....



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The gears really helped me make short work of this waterfall....



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Last trail we ran was Blacksheep Blvd. The traditional line is on the right, hooking around this big boulder I am driving on and then take a hard right over the slab. If you watch Four Wheeler TV you will have seen them on this at the 2005 Ultimate Adventure and also on Superlift TV. It looks WAY nasty, but if you know the line it is a cakewalk for a locked rig with 36's and up.

The line I am taking on the left is a new one I tried in Kate after I saw a short spot of someone trying it at the Ultimate Adventure. I got totally stuck in Kate and broke a brand new winchline here.

I tried it again with the Bash Buggy and once I backed up at the top and got lined up right it went right up. I would not have been able to do this before with the old gearing. This took total, "Automatic Tranny-like" control and the stupid low gearing gives me this.



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Did you run Blacksheep Bounty?
No, just the creek section and we exited out on the right.

The Bounty is where I broke my last Tcase output last month. It is just not really a trail yet. It needs lots of traffic and unfortunately no one is willing to get in there and knock shit off the rocks.
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Weston and I almost made it but I broke and he didnt want to leave me stuck. Another day/time. I would have thought you or Adam would have had a good shot. We walked the rest of the trail and it definately looks do-able.

I wish I could have made it down there to run with you guys, but Jared and Adam didnt call me until they were leaving. I need a little more of a head start from MO.

Is the Toy rear axle not holding up?
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So far it is. I have the Polyperformance moly axles and the 3rd is a Taco, which is the tronger of the 3rds.

I have a 9" coming that I will install next time I break a tcase or axle.

There is really just one really bad climb on the Bounty trail, yes. It is just too steep, loose and long right now.

It will always be steep and long, but eventually the dirt and crap will be off the rocks and you will have enough traction to get up it.
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That thing needs a Cruiser hood.........come on money bags, have one made for it so it looks like a real cruiser....pretty sweet poser shot on the retaining wall! Looks like you are dialing it in pretty nice...
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I think he is getting a 48" version of Tfabs' hood.
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