Broken inner axels? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

helocat · 06-27-2002, 12:11 AM

Ok fill me in here: I keep reading about pepole braking inner axels on the front ends of their rigs. (Yes yes I know running "Longfeilds") Yikes!

So what side tends to brake first?

If it is long side axles, I will have to kick myself for using them as welding table legs! (got a doz. or so stacked up from robbing Birfields out of mini's, so I put a few to work

)

Mark

FeCamel · 06-27-2002, 02:35 AM

Go ahead and use the mini-truck inners as table legs. They won't fit in your FJ40. They would fit in your FJ62, but I am assuming your '40 is the trail rig with the greater possibility of axle-breakage.

Eskimo · 06-27-2002, 05:30 AM

From a physics and "what-i've-seen" standpoint, the short sides tend to go first. The long side can help absorb more of the shock..

But, if you have the left tire wedged, turned, and in reverse, plan on the long side going pop before the short side.

And yeah, what Camel said, the long sides won't work on your 40.

helocat · 06-27-2002, 10:30 PM

Thank's fellas.

here's to you!

Must have been one of those one leged squirrels that live in the junk yard that told me they would fit a 40.

BTW they make outstanding table legs! Now what to do with all the short sides...

Mark

FeCamel · 06-27-2002, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by helocat
Now what to do with all the short sides...

Mark

Coffee table?

texican · 06-27-2002, 10:57 PM

Click on the 4x4 tech link at the top, the go to the mini/4 runner
Butchforum and post them up for sale!

SpaceGhost · 06-28-2002, 06:48 AM

Short side 2-1 in my case. That assumes equal load on both sides. If the short side is in the air, it won't break, haha! Longer axle absorbs more torsional stress/force before it gives up.

Bobby Long shared this with me yesterday. He cut (openings) in a housing up so he could see whats going on inside. I gathered he was trying to see how the steering stop adjustments effect the breakage of the inners. He witnessed the tweaking of the outer end of the axle if the stops were too far out. He suggested tightening them up some to prevent this.

Thats my plan, since I had been running them just tight enough to keep the tire lugs off the springs!

helocat · 06-28-2002, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FeCamel

Coffee table?

That's it! Yes I will weld up one you can leave your cold

sitting on and not worry about the ring... heck just whip out the grider and resurface the bugger!

FeCamel · 06-29-2002, 03:44 AM

I'd actually put a table made with axle parts in my living room. I might even wipe the grease off first.

06-27-2002, 12:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
helocat Metal-tech'in Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10420 Location: Newberg (Portland) OR Posts: 1,554	Broken inner axels? Ok fill me in here: I keep reading about pepole braking inner axels on the front ends of their rigs. (Yes yes I know running "Longfeilds") Yikes! So what side tends to brake first? If it is long side axles, I will have to kick myself for using them as welding table legs! (got a doz. or so stacked up from robbing Birfields out of mini's, so I put a few to work ) Mark __________________ Metal Tech Made in the USA! ALL Active duty US Military get 10% off Metal-tech brand – thank you for your service!

06-27-2002, 05:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Eskimo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10429 Location: Danville, PA Posts: 4,456	From a physics and "what-i've-seen" standpoint, the short sides tend to go first. The long side can help absorb more of the shock.. But, if you have the left tire wedged, turned, and in reverse, plan on the long side going pop before the short side. And yeah, what Camel said, the long sides won't work on your 40. __________________ Rich Q. FJ-40 Cruggy - tuned 5.3/4WS rockwells/linked/ORI's/42's

06-27-2002, 10:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
helocat Metal-tech'in Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10420 Location: Newberg (Portland) OR Posts: 1,554	Thank's fellas. here's to you! Must have been one of those one leged squirrels that live in the junk yard that told me they would fit a 40. BTW they make outstanding table legs! Now what to do with all the short sides... Mark __________________ Metal Tech Made in the USA! ALL Active duty US Military get 10% off Metal-tech brand – thank you for your service!

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06-28-2002, 06:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
SpaceGhost Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1599 Location: Indianapolis, IN. Home of the Brickyard 400, Indy 500, and USGP! Posts: 1,557	Short side 2-1 in my case. That assumes equal load on both sides. If the short side is in the air, it won't break, haha! Longer axle absorbs more torsional stress/force before it gives up. Bobby Long shared this with me yesterday. He cut (openings) in a housing up so he could see whats going on inside. I gathered he was trying to see how the steering stop adjustments effect the breakage of the inners. He witnessed the tweaking of the outer end of the axle if the stops were too far out. He suggested tightening them up some to prevent this. Thats my plan, since I had been running them just tight enough to keep the tire lugs off the springs! __________________ Mike "SpaceGhost" Smythe R U gettin' it? UROC Team #180 running: BFG's 37" Krawlers, Gordon Beadlocks, HP60's, T-Max w/Blue Diamond Rope, Green Filters, Marlin's ToyBox, 3.8 Atlas II, and "I got the shaft from Jesse" but I couldn't have done without Badlands Machine Shop (765-762-2981)!

06-27-2002, 02:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
FeCamel Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 922 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 896	Go ahead and use the mini-truck inners as table legs. They won't fit in your FJ40. They would fit in your FJ62, but I am assuming your '40 is the trail rig with the greater possibility of axle-breakage.

06-29-2002, 03:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
FeCamel Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 922 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 896	I'd actually put a table made with axle parts in my living room. I might even wipe the grease off first.

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