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#1 · (Edited)
Well
 
#4 ·
I got the axles torn down this weekend. The rear was already only partially assembled, because I had previously thought I could swap my 4.56 gears over with no problem, but found the Isuzu axle is slightly different so I just threw it together to roll around on. After tearing it down this weekend I've found it's not too different....main difference is the Isuzu uses a thick ring gear for its 4.10 ratio. This is so they can use a 3.73 and down carrier with a tone ring for abs on the driver's side of the carrier. I'm going to see if I can come up with some way to keep the abs ring without having to buy thick 4.56 gears...I'm told my TBI engine will lose some of its "quirks" if it has a speed signal to listen to.

here you can see the difference in the two carriers: 4.56 gears on 3.92-up carrier, 3.73-down carrier with abs ring



Here's my axles torn down. I was worried about the front axle, the knuckle wipers/seals were worn out before I got the axle, and since then it had been on a few trips down the Llano river. Smart thing I did was to repack the birfields with marine grease after installing the gears. This kept the grease nice and sticky even though some water was present.


 
#5 · (Edited)
Finished the cut and turn today...except for re-welding the knuckles. The pinion angle was set whenever the axle was converted to SOA, so all I have to worry about is the caster angle. Aside from the sloppy steering linkages, the positive caster angle was contributing to some major death wobble.

It's not really going to see too much street time, so I didn't get too picky with the caster angle and did everything on the bench. I started by grinding off all the crap in the way. Removed the steering stops, shock mounts, and brake line tabs. I then ground the old knuckle weld smooth, then ground a groove in the tube just on the differential side of the weld.



I figured my spring perches should be pretty close to level when the axle is installed, so I set my perches to zero.



From what I've seen, most people have been aiming for 4-6 degrees negative caster. I ended up with about 4.5 degrees.



You can see below the difference between the original angle and the new angle. I also made a mark near the cut to show how far it was turned.





I still need to burn them in, but after testing my little 130amp HF welder, I decided it wasn't up to the job and I'll have to borrow someone else's.
 
#9 ·
Ok, I've had a couple people mention the cut for my cut and turn is pretty wide. I've done some searching and it looks like a lot of people only use a cut off wheel to do the cut....hmmm. Do yall think I'm gonna be in trouble here? I do have a spare housing (it's the original 67 housing....don't know if it will work because it was ball and claw) so I could start over.

I'm thinking as long as I get some good weld in there done in multiple passes it should be good to go. Here's a couple others for comparison...

Section525 "Numtel want 8"..."


Trollhole "Cut and Turn"
 
#12 ·
Ya, I was planning on doing the knuckle ball gussets also.

I figured out the problem with my welder, the flux core wire I'm using is meant to be used in DC-, a manual I found for my welder shows it's wired DC+. I'm going to switch the polarity tonight and see if it welds any better on some sample pieces.
 
#22 ·
Got the bed cut out tonight. First welded in some braces to keep the body from getting out of whack once I cut the sides. Then cut the bed out...I really gotta get a recipricating saw, it took me 4 4.5" grinder cut-off wheels, 2 die grinder cut-offs, and 1 jig saw blade.:laughing:



 
#23 ·
so....lots of chopping today:D

Turns out the rear of the cruiser is bolted on to the back of the door frame. This made it pretty easy to remove as the only weld I had to remove was at the top rail. This is the plan I had originally...



the idea was to mount the tank directly behind the main beam of the cab then enclose it with the rear of the tub. After mocking up the 105" wheelbase, I found that this would have most likely resulted in the rear of the tub coming into contact with the tire on full stuff...you can see the rear of the tank is already behind the front of the 33" tire (and I'm going w/ 36's). So now what I'll have is the cab will end just behind the seats and the tank will be in the front of the bed.

I did a bunch of measuring on the seats been using, and determined how much cab I needed to be able to clear seats mounted in a similar location. So here it is mocked up.







I still have some cleaning up to do where the rear of the tub meets the door frame, and I'll tack it in place till it's cage time. I'll also need to make a fill panel where the doors were, finish out the floorboard, and make a fill panel to transition the bottom of the rocker panel to meet the bottom of the rear corners.
 
#24 ·
Another thing I came across while mocking up the wheelbase...I shouldn't need to extend the frame any to make the suspension work for 105". Probably just build the rear shackle hanger off the back of the bumper (I don't know why I didn't think of it before, but I know I've seen a dozen other FJs on here running 105 w/o a bunch of work). I'm going to continue to use the stock springs, the fronts will be in stock location but 180'd for about 3" extra wheelbase in front, then the rears will be 180'd as well and relocated rearward.

 
#26 ·
target practice on your fire wall??? :flipoff2:

why?????
 
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