2F to and auto?? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

FullsizeYota · 04-02-2008, 03:51 PM

Can it be done? i'd swear i have seen it done on here or 'Mud...

I've searched and searched and can't find anything. Did i imagine this?

65-fj45 · 04-02-2008, 03:58 PM

Downey offroad made a 1 off adapter to put that combo in there FJ45. They changed direction on the project and I think the one and only adapter was sold.

trooper+ · 04-02-2008, 08:49 PM

60 series have an auto with the 2f ans 3fe so why not?

KrustyKruiser · 04-03-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by trooper+

60 series have an auto with the 2f ans 3fe so why not?

Yup, the FJ62 has an excellent auto tranny - way over-built for the vehicle. The only down-side is that it is an expensive tranny to fix/rebuild, and robs power. The FJ62's are total dogs; mating it to a 2F would make it worse.

FullsizeYota · 04-03-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KrustyKruiser

Yup, the FJ62 has an excellent auto tranny - way over-built for the vehicle. The only down-side is that it is an expensive tranny to fix/rebuild, and robs power. The FJ62's are total dogs; mating it to a 2F would make it worse.

I talked to Kurt of Cruiseroutfitters.. He said that tranny would not bolt up, and also the 3fe is computer controlled and also controls the tranny. you would need the wiring/computer..

he said it would be better off to buy a 62 and take the drivetrain from it.

Jason M · 04-03-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 65-fj45

Downey offroad made a 1 off adapter to put that combo in there FJ45. They changed direction on the project and I think the one and only adapter was sold.

Yep. It was designed for a 700R4 (or any GM auto realistically)

Up-n-over used to have an adapter plate as well. But IIRC they stopped building it.

FullsizeYota · 04-03-2008, 12:16 PM

Stupid.. If i could just get my wife to drive a 5 spd. i'd be fine

I found a sweet deal on a FJ62 with an auto

we'll see how it turns out.

I guess it would be less than ideal anyway, a 2F has tons of grunt down low where a auto it least efficient. it seems like it would be kinda worthless

KrustyKruiser · 04-03-2008, 12:39 PM

Interesting - I was under the (mis) impression that the F blocks were all the same

I would not bother with the Toyota drivetrain (especially out of an FJ62 - (speaking as a non-purist

) just go with a Chevy motor/tranny and adapt to a Toy Tcase - cheaper, more power, better economy, etc. etc.

trooper+ · 04-03-2008, 12:44 PM

mhm go chev

KrustyKruiser · 04-03-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by trooper+

mhm go chev

Did you text that from your cell?

dog walker · 04-03-2008, 04:52 PM

Maybe you could use a Ford c-6 (removable bell housing) and custom fab an adapter. But would'nt it be much easier to just swap a GM drivetrain in... That's why everyone else does it. Simple + most cost effective.

texican · 04-03-2008, 08:19 PM

The FJ62 trans will bolt up to a 2F with the cast adapter that they use to bolt it onto a 3FE, and the trans is not computer controlled.....
Butch

Jason M · 04-03-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dog walker

Maybe you could use a Ford c-6 (removable bell housing) and custom fab an adapter. But would'nt it be much easier to just swap a GM drivetrain in... That's why everyone else does it. Simple + most cost effective.

C6 is integrated. C4 is removeable

IIRC butch is right

KrustyKruiser · 04-03-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason M

IIRC butch is right

That's a given - never gonna argue with that man about anything Cruiser-related...

Jason M · 04-04-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KrustyKruiser

That's a given - never gonna argue with that man about anything Cruiser-related...

It's NOT a given, but a good rule of thumb

texican · 04-04-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason M

It's NOT a given, but a good rule of thumb

The reason I know is that I have all the stuff to couple them together here and a good used A440/t case....thought it would make a cool buggy powerplant.......If I live long enough to complete all the bitchin' projects my mind dreams up it will be a miracle.

DHONDAGOD · 04-04-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by texican

If I live long enough to complete all the bitchin' projects my mind dreams up it will be a miracle.

If you do like I did and quit going to work then you might have a chance...

Chris

dog walker · 04-04-2008, 11:12 PM

[QUOTE] [/C6 is integrated. C4 is removeable

QUOTE]

Whatever, you know what I meant!

Killerpee · 04-05-2008, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by texican

The reason I know is that I have all the stuff to couple them together here and a good used A440/t case....thought it would make a cool buggy powerplant.......If I live long enough to complete all the bitchin' projects my mind dreams up it will be a miracle.

Cmon Butch...sell me that auto. You'll at least get to see it on the trail that way

fjnation · 04-05-2008, 10:32 AM

What are you wanting to put it in?? It is a long ass transmission for a 40. I was putting a drivetrain from a 62 in my 40 but it left the rear shaft about 8" long. The whole combo is not going to happen for me, its now in the shed. Now I'm going with a 4.3 4l60e and 3speed t-case with downeys adapter. Should have around 18" of rear d-shaft.

Killerpee · 04-05-2008, 07:56 PM

My 40 is pretty long...103 right now so I bet it would all fit

Advent Horizon · 04-05-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 65-fj45

Downey offroad made a 1 off adapter to put that combo in there FJ45. They changed direction on the project and I think the one and only adapter was sold.

Didn't Jason Mace buy it?

65SWB45 · 04-06-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DHONDAGOD

If you do like I did and quit going to work then you might have a chance...

Chris

That would make #6 for the WT then, wouldn't it?

FullsizeYota · 04-07-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fjnation

What are you wanting to put it in??

I wanted to put it in a '55.. but since i found a killer deal on a '62, i wont be buying the '55

cruiseroutfit · 04-07-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FullsizeYota

I talked to Kurt of Cruiseroutfitters.. He said that tranny would not bolt up...

Actually, I said it would bolt up, but the flex plate couple be an issue as the auto had a bigger bolt on the flex plate than the 2F, as discussed

you would either have to drill/tap your crank for the bigger bolts or use some sort of spacer inside the holes of the flexplate. This might not be an issue on every LC auto flex-plate, but I know when going from a H55F to a 3FE you have to drill out the holes on the flywheel for the bigger 3FE bolts. On the two setups I've dealt with, we had to just that... so one could assume you would have to do the opposite while going the opposite direction (F/2F to A440)

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Originally Posted by FullsizeYota

and also the 3fe is computer controlled and also controls the tranny. you would need the wiring/computer..

Not sure what I was thinking there... but I'm sure I said it

I think the issue I was referring to was rigging a kickdown cable to your carb, not impossible but something to do none-the-less.

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Originally Posted by FullsizeYota

he said it would be better off to buy a 62 and take the drivetrain from it.

I stand by that...

04-02-2008, 03:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
FullsizeYota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 24876 Location: Southern Utaarrrr Posts: 1,291	2F to and auto?? Can it be done? i'd swear i have seen it done on here or 'Mud... I've searched and searched and can't find anything. Did i imagine this? __________________ [COLOR="Lime"]'85 Toyota ext cab. 4 cyl. 5.29s. Chromoly birfs. dual cases. hi-steer. OBA. front ARB. rear welded. cage.[/COLOR]

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65-fj45 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22259 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 661	Downey offroad made a 1 off adapter to put that combo in there FJ45. They changed direction on the project and I think the one and only adapter was sold. __________________ 78 fj40 350,nv4500,35's 65 fj45 350,sm420,4wdb,35's Alcans 2007 Black FJ Cruiser 1966 M416 -Mike

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FullsizeYota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 24876 Location: Southern Utaarrrr Posts: 1,291	Stupid.. If i could just get my wife to drive a 5 spd. i'd be fine I found a sweet deal on a FJ62 with an auto we'll see how it turns out. I guess it would be less than ideal anyway, a 2F has tons of grunt down low where a auto it least efficient. it seems like it would be kinda worthless __________________ [COLOR="Lime"]'85 Toyota ext cab. 4 cyl. 5.29s. Chromoly birfs. dual cases. hi-steer. OBA. front ARB. rear welded. cage.[/COLOR]

04-03-2008, 12:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
KrustyKruiser Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 474 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 3,028	Interesting - I was under the (mis) impression that the F blocks were all the same I would not bother with the Toyota drivetrain (especially out of an FJ62 - (speaking as a non-purist ) just go with a Chevy motor/tranny and adapt to a Toy Tcase - cheaper, more power, better economy, etc. etc. __________________ Rock on with the RockDogs!

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dog walker Discount! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 156 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 6,785	Maybe you could use a Ford c-6 (removable bell housing) and custom fab an adapter. But would'nt it be much easier to just swap a GM drivetrain in... That's why everyone else does it. Simple + most cost effective. __________________ Jeff Fretwell 72 FJ40 67 FJ45 83 Toyota 4x4 LB

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trooper+ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Member # 81992 Posts: 74	60 series have an auto with the 2f ans 3fe so why not?

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trooper+ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Member # 81992 Posts: 74	mhm go chev

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texican Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12349 Location: Bonham Texas Posts: 6,609	The FJ62 trans will bolt up to a 2F with the cast adapter that they use to bolt it onto a 3FE, and the trans is not computer controlled..... Butch __________________ Conflict is inevitable..... Combat is optional.... Tires are like boobs, they always look big until you have played with them for a while, then you just want a bigger set. [URL=http://www.lslc.org/]Lone Star Land Cruisers[/URL] [URL=http://www.khyi.com/]Support Texas Music[/URL]

04-04-2008, 11:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
dog walker Discount! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 156 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 6,785	[QUOTE] [/C6 is integrated. C4 is removeable QUOTE] Whatever, you know what I meant! __________________ Jeff Fretwell 72 FJ40 67 FJ45 83 Toyota 4x4 LB

04-05-2008, 10:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
fjnation Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50672 Posts: 78	What are you wanting to put it in?? It is a long ass transmission for a 40. I was putting a drivetrain from a 62 in my 40 but it left the rear shaft about 8" long. The whole combo is not going to happen for me, its now in the shed. Now I'm going with a 4.3 4l60e and 3speed t-case with downeys adapter. Should have around 18" of rear d-shaft.

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Killerpee Rock God Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 14712 Location: Texas Posts: 1,601	My 40 is pretty long...103 right now so I bet it would all fit __________________ Needed: Bed for 79 F150 (shortbed)

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