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LT · 09-11-2002, 06:06 PM

I just bought a 76 fj40 with the factory PTO winch. I really need to fix the steering on it, cause it's about a 1/4 turn counter clockwise to even drive straight, and driving on the freeway is a different matter. I want to keep the factory PTO winch and use power steering. I know that the saginaw get in the way with the PTO setup. If can't go saginaw, i guess i could go the scout or fj60 route. Oh, and i have a 78 fj40 we are parting out.... anyone interested in the northwest area that want some parts let me know.

Travis

v6toy4x · 09-11-2002, 07:16 PM

search for scout p/s on toyota fj

Pin Head · 09-11-2002, 09:20 PM

The Scout box is a Saginaw too.

rick d · 09-11-2002, 09:59 PM

Travis-

several questions:
Do you have smog? Will you run tires larger than 33"? What is your budget? How you done any front end maintenance?

spring bushings, center arm, tie rods, wheel balance, wheel bearings, knuckle bearings, drag link, and steering stabilizer can all contribute to poor steering. The steering wheel off is easy enough- a quick fit is mark and remove steering wheel and rotate to 'correct' position then reinstall.

You can add factory FJ40 PS for about $600+/-. You still have 2F right? Tercel pump I have been told will fit in smog pump position, Mini truck PS box can be rebuilt in a 40 PS casting, and the shorter steering column can be found at Toyota. You must have no smog requirements and run 33" tires or smaller.

Look at the list above and make sure things are tight. Drag link can be oh with "2 cent fix" and a new cotter pin. Wheel bearings should just be repacked (unless cooked). The other items if bad will require some dough, but when done it will be very close to the showroom feel and drive.

If you want larger tires and/or truck is non resto then consider scout/60 conversion to keep the PTO. traditional saginaw (ala jeep lookin') blocks the PTO.

LT · 09-11-2002, 10:32 PM

The 2f has been de smoged. It came from a 79 at 80,000 miles on it. It has a hooker header, a weber 38mm carb, and a h.e.i. distibutor on it. I plan on running 33" tires with a 4" lift with a locker in the front and rear. I've put my old 78 in 4wd with the locker in the front with 29's and it sucked. My budget isn't really all that limited, i know with the saginaw way at www.overthehill4x4.com it will cost me $850. Which is fine by me. Also to mention when i drive on the freeway i could be pulled over for a d.u.i. if a cop were to follow me. So i do want to go power steering and get it over with.

Travis

Medusa · 09-12-2002, 08:52 AM

Travis.... The Scout Saginaw box is the way to go if you want to retain the winch. I did one of these conversions for a friend a few years ago and it works very well. PM me if you want some pictures.

They actually let you use the word "green" at that school of orange and black???

cruzila · 09-12-2002, 12:09 PM

i recently saw a 40 with a mini ps box mounted in the stock location. They fabbed a new tower/mount. It looked pretty cool. I can get some pics if needed but it looked straightforward. The other thing is mounting the pump. lots of good stuff already out there for that though

later, Scott

LT · 09-12-2002, 01:08 PM

Hey both my parents are OSU grads and my dad nick named it that. Some nasty hills in Eastern Oregon that the cruiser couldn't go up, so he called it a weeny, cause it doesn't have a big block 454 v8 like his 73 monte carlo hehe

09-11-2002, 06:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
LT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11458 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,006	pto winch w/ saginaw p/s I just bought a 76 fj40 with the factory PTO winch. I really need to fix the steering on it, cause it's about a 1/4 turn counter clockwise to even drive straight, and driving on the freeway is a different matter. I want to keep the factory PTO winch and use power steering. I know that the saginaw get in the way with the PTO setup. If can't go saginaw, i guess i could go the scout or fj60 route. Oh, and i have a 78 fj40 we are parting out.... anyone interested in the northwest area that want some parts let me know. Travis

09-12-2002, 08:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
Medusa Old Rock Doc Join Date: May 2000 Member # 915 Location: Fargher Lake FrankenCruiser Lab Posts: 1,649	Travis.... The Scout Saginaw box is the way to go if you want to retain the winch. I did one of these conversions for a friend a few years ago and it works very well. PM me if you want some pictures. They actually let you use the word "green" at that school of orange and black??? __________________ Got Rice?

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cruzila Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6650 Location: Garden Valley Posts: 5,383	i recently saw a 40 with a mini ps box mounted in the stock location. They fabbed a new tower/mount. It looked pretty cool. I can get some pics if needed but it looked straightforward. The other thing is mounting the pump. lots of good stuff already out there for that though later, Scott __________________ Scott Johnston Rubicon Trail Foundation Founding Director and Past President 2010-2012 WIN a fully built Toyota pickup at Cantina 2013 Davez Off Road and Trail Gear are supporting Rubicon Trail Foundation

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09-11-2002, 07:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
v6toy4x Rock God Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9154 Location: union city ca. Posts: 1,404	search for scout p/s on toyota fj

09-11-2002, 09:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pin Head Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4783 Location: Orange Co. CA Posts: 1,797	The Scout box is a Saginaw too.

09-11-2002, 09:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
rick d Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1849 Location: old pueblo Posts: 493	Travis- several questions: Do you have smog? Will you run tires larger than 33"? What is your budget? How you done any front end maintenance? spring bushings, center arm, tie rods, wheel balance, wheel bearings, knuckle bearings, drag link, and steering stabilizer can all contribute to poor steering. The steering wheel off is easy enough- a quick fit is mark and remove steering wheel and rotate to 'correct' position then reinstall. You can add factory FJ40 PS for about $600+/-. You still have 2F right? Tercel pump I have been told will fit in smog pump position, Mini truck PS box can be rebuilt in a 40 PS casting, and the shorter steering column can be found at Toyota. You must have no smog requirements and run 33" tires or smaller. Look at the list above and make sure things are tight. Drag link can be oh with "2 cent fix" and a new cotter pin. Wheel bearings should just be repacked (unless cooked). The other items if bad will require some dough, but when done it will be very close to the showroom feel and drive. If you want larger tires and/or truck is non resto then consider scout/60 conversion to keep the PTO. traditional saginaw (ala jeep lookin') blocks the PTO.

09-11-2002, 10:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
LT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11458 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,006	The 2f has been de smoged. It came from a 79 at 80,000 miles on it. It has a hooker header, a weber 38mm carb, and a h.e.i. distibutor on it. I plan on running 33" tires with a 4" lift with a locker in the front and rear. I've put my old 78 in 4wd with the locker in the front with 29's and it sucked. My budget isn't really all that limited, i know with the saginaw way at www.overthehill4x4.com it will cost me $850. Which is fine by me. Also to mention when i drive on the freeway i could be pulled over for a d.u.i. if a cop were to follow me. So i do want to go power steering and get it over with. Travis

09-12-2002, 01:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
LT Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11458 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,006	Hey both my parents are OSU grads and my dad nick named it that. Some nasty hills in Eastern Oregon that the cruiser couldn't go up, so he called it a weeny, cause it doesn't have a big block 454 v8 like his 73 monte carlo hehe