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rockthedog · 05-10-2012, 10:07 PM

i'm bumbed for you manny

looking forward to seeing you soon.

Flatty · 05-11-2012, 05:33 PM

Manny. have you tried to talk to dave? his buddy did the same swap in a CJ.

good luck with this. Major bummer. what shop was this at?

Dima

Toploader · 05-11-2012, 06:36 PM

Dumb fucks....haven't you ever heard of "Hitler's Curse"!

jstncse · 05-19-2012, 06:46 AM

Good Luck Mr. Manny.

I'm on my second OM617, lost the first one to excessive boost and almost gave up on my project. Now I'm glad that I didn't give up, the motor that I have in the truck now has no blow-by and runs very well.

Don't give up!

kbahus · 07-10-2012, 09:47 PM

Since you have one of the few OM617 swapped 40's that I can find I was curious what you think would be the ideal transmission for it or would you stick with the 465? Thinking about doing this swap but very unclear about transmission choices. I sure would love to just keep the Toyota 4-speed and tcase but can't find any adapters.

I wish you luck too with getting it back on the road. I recently toasted a freshly rebuilt 2f by a dumb oversight and know how you feel.

Rockzar · 07-10-2012, 10:28 PM

I just caught wind of your post Manny! Bad news! I loath those places. Hope you get some good news out of all this. Let me know if you need any help.

cheers!
Dustin

lildave · 07-13-2012, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flatty

Manny. have you tried to talk to dave? his buddy did the same swap in a CJ.

Dima

he came down to look at it. any up dates Manny?

mr_manny · 07-16-2012, 08:02 PM

Saw Georg over the weekend...no updates to report.

Picked up another 300D, just in case

WebWhlR · 03-18-2013, 08:59 AM

Any updates manny?

fc187 · 03-20-2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebWhlR

Any updates manny?

from across the border, I spy a benz motor on a stand

mr_manny · 03-20-2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc187

from across the border, I spy a benz motor on a stand

lucky...hope to be on the other-side next month

Project is back on Georg's calendar

Benzo was needed for some R&D testing

Toploader · 03-21-2013, 12:15 PM

Stayed late and tore into it. Doesn't look to bad.

SLOonTheGo · 03-21-2013, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toploader

Stayed late and tore into it. Doesn't look to bad.

Stuff will buff right out...

r0nin89 · 03-21-2013, 06:42 PM

Doing a rebuild or finding a new motor? If you do a rebuild keep track of what you do and prices. Ive heard these motors are upwards or $6000 to rebuild but I have such a hard time believing that...

mr_manny · 03-21-2013, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0nin89

Doing a rebuild or finding a new motor? If you do a rebuild keep track of what you do and prices. Ive heard these motors are upwards or $6000 to rebuild but I have such a hard time believing that...

Holly trashed pistons BatMan...that explains the low compression numbers

Thanks for sharing Marky

Replacement motor came from a downer 300d

More affordable then a rebuilt longblock

Mercedes Rebuilt Engines

one 55 guy · 03-22-2013, 07:18 PM

TOO HOT EGT"s ??????

Mr.Manny , You want a ride ???

r0nin89 · 03-22-2013, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_manny

Holly trashed pistons BatMan...that explains the low compression numbers

Thanks for sharing Marky

Replacement motor came from a downer 300d

More affordable then a rebuilt longblock

Mercedes Rebuilt Engines

Thats pretty on-par with what Ive heard. I've always wondered what someone with machine shop access could do price wise. Even if you found a decent motor a honed the cylinders .010 over and had pistons made you could still come out cheaper than the "correct" MB replacement of every part and bolt.

mr_manny · 03-22-2013, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one 55 guy

TOO HOT EGT"s ??????

Mr.Manny , You want a ride ???

Thanks Uncle...Rig should be done before Rubithon

Good lookn out for your nephew

Bad Coco · 03-26-2013, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_manny

Thanks Uncle...Rig should be done before Rubithon

Good lookn out for your nephew

I certainly hope so!!!!!!!

greenfox · 03-30-2013, 09:26 PM

Mr.Ice cream man next time you come over to the shop hit me up. Glad to see the greenburrto is getting a new fart maker transplant

Rockzar · 04-01-2013, 04:42 PM

Manny- did they oil shop ever try to set things straight?

cheers-
Dustin

mr_manny · 04-01-2013, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenfox

Mr.Ice cream man next time you come over to the shop hit me up. Glad to see the greenburrto is getting a new fart maker transplant

sounds like a plan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockzar

Manny- did they oil shop ever try to set things straight?

cheers-
Dustin

no comment

Napalm68 · 04-21-2013, 01:54 PM

Putting a very similar build into my 1965 series 2a land rover.

465 muncie
Stock LR Series Tcase (1.15 high /2.35 low)
Will be running 32 inch tires for now. Rig will be a DD with respectable offroad capabilities. Leaf sprung. Might put a 3 inch lift on it put some 35's on it in the future.

Right now I am trying to figure out what axle gearing to go with. Buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 3.54 rear 24 spline but i know how shifting from 3rd to 4th can be a drag with the muncie. I noticed that you can find a "updated" 3rd gear for the muncie rebuild and I was wondering if you had ever considered that option? Not even sure if it changes your 3rd gearing or not.

My other options are a 4.7 or 4.1 with the addition of a overdrive that I can use to drop my gearing to 0.8. I want to shoot for about 2500 rpm at about 70mph. Hoping that om617 will have decent power at that speed.

r0nin89 · 04-21-2013, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Napalm68

Putting a very similar build into my 1965 series 2a land rover.

465 muncie
Stock LR Series Tcase (1.15 high /2.35 low)
Will be running 32 inch tires for now. Rig will be a DD with respectable offroad capabilities. Leaf sprung. Might put a 3 inch lift on it put some 35's on it in the future.

Right now I am trying to figure out what axle gearing to go with. Buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 3.54 rear 24 spline but i know how shifting from 3rd to 4th can be a drag with the muncie. I noticed that you can find a "updated" 3rd gear for the muncie rebuild and I was wondering if you had ever considered that option? Not even sure if it changes your 3rd gearing or not.

My other options are a 4.7 or 4.1 with the addition of a overdrive that I can use to drop my gearing to 0.8. I want to shoot for about 2500 rpm at about 70mph. Hoping that om617 will have decent power at that speed.

The upgraded 3rd gear for the sm465 is simply to fix the popping out of gear issues that are natural to the stock trans. These motors rev out somewhere around 5200rpm +/-. 2500rpm is a good RPM to shoot at but as manny has said in the past the sm465 is lack luster for keeping the motor in a good rpm range. Im going with a w56 toy 5 speed in my project.

jstncse · 04-21-2013, 07:53 PM

I won't speak for anybody else but I am running about 3000 rpm's in 4th gear at 70mph. I think this works well and would allow the use of an overdrive on occasion. Pushing an FJ40 through the air at 70 is about all you can expect out of the OM617.

05-10-2012, 10:07 PM	#126 (permalink)
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05-11-2012, 05:33 PM	#127 (permalink)
Flatty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 29 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 6,389	Manny. have you tried to talk to dave? his buddy did the same swap in a CJ. good luck with this. Major bummer. what shop was this at? Dima __________________ 1974 FJ40 in the works 2006 F250 crew cab longbed powerstroke for towing duties

05-11-2012, 06:36 PM	#128 (permalink)
Toploader Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16737 Location: Chillin with Clayton Bigsby Posts: 2,206	Dumb fucks....haven't you ever heard of "Hitler's Curse"! __________________ 72 Rockwelled yeah whatever... All my shits heavy.

05-19-2012, 06:46 AM	#129 (permalink)
jstncse Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 190020 Location: in the high desert Posts: 3	Good Luck Mr. Manny. I'm on my second OM617, lost the first one to excessive boost and almost gave up on my project. Now I'm glad that I didn't give up, the motor that I have in the truck now has no blow-by and runs very well. Don't give up! __________________ Mercedes powered FJ40 Last edited by jstncse; 05-20-2012 at 09:33 PM.

07-10-2012, 09:47 PM	#130 (permalink)
kbahus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Member # 197859 Posts: 7	Since you have one of the few OM617 swapped 40's that I can find I was curious what you think would be the ideal transmission for it or would you stick with the 465? Thinking about doing this swap but very unclear about transmission choices. I sure would love to just keep the Toyota 4-speed and tcase but can't find any adapters. I wish you luck too with getting it back on the road. I recently toasted a freshly rebuilt 2f by a dumb oversight and know how you feel. Last edited by kbahus; 07-11-2012 at 09:15 AM.

07-10-2012, 10:28 PM	#131 (permalink)
Rockzar Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25622 Location: In the fog, Half Moon Bay, CA Posts: 2,045	I just caught wind of your post Manny! Bad news! I loath those places. Hope you get some good news out of all this. Let me know if you need any help. cheers! Dustin __________________ 4Runner/ 325i / crf 50 / ttr 125 / wrf 450 / V-Star 650

07-16-2012, 08:02 PM	#133 (permalink)
mr_manny Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29301 Location: san pancho, ca Posts: 1,248	Saw Georg over the weekend...no updates to report. Picked up another 300D, just in case __________________ 1972 FJ40 - never ending project :D TLCA 14254 [url=http://helpthehoneybees.com] Help the Honey Bees[/url]

03-18-2013, 08:59 AM	#134 (permalink)
WebWhlR aka dtrain Join Date: Jun 2006 Member # 74680 Location: SC Mountains Posts: 573	Any updates manny? __________________ Damon '96 FZJ80 - DD, wheeler Watch out for the coffee h0s

03-21-2013, 12:15 PM	#137 (permalink)
Toploader Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16737 Location: Chillin with Clayton Bigsby Posts: 2,206	mr manny benzo 40 Stayed late and tore into it. Doesn't look to bad. __________________ 72 Rockwelled yeah whatever... All my shits heavy.

03-21-2013, 06:42 PM	#139 (permalink)
r0nin89 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80727 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 1,072	Doing a rebuild or finding a new motor? If you do a rebuild keep track of what you do and prices. Ive heard these motors are upwards or $6000 to rebuild but I have such a hard time believing that... __________________ 1994 Isuzu Trooper: OM617/W56/toybox 4.56 Dana 44 w/ lockright/6 lug Ford 8.8 4.56 Ox locker

03-22-2013, 07:18 PM	#141 (permalink)
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03-30-2013, 09:26 PM	#145 (permalink)
greenfox Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 52537 Location: Stockto, ca Posts: 940	Mr.Ice cream man next time you come over to the shop hit me up. Glad to see the greenburrto is getting a new fart maker transplant __________________ "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph you're going to see some serious shit!"

04-01-2013, 04:42 PM	#146 (permalink)
Rockzar Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 25622 Location: In the fog, Half Moon Bay, CA Posts: 2,045	Manny- did they oil shop ever try to set things straight? cheers- Dustin __________________ 4Runner/ 325i / crf 50 / ttr 125 / wrf 450 / V-Star 650

04-21-2013, 01:54 PM	#148 (permalink)
Napalm68 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Member # 286690 Posts: 1	Putting a very similar build into my 1965 series 2a land rover. 465 muncie Stock LR Series Tcase (1.15 high /2.35 low) Will be running 32 inch tires for now. Rig will be a DD with respectable offroad capabilities. Leaf sprung. Might put a 3 inch lift on it put some 35's on it in the future. Right now I am trying to figure out what axle gearing to go with. Buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 3.54 rear 24 spline but i know how shifting from 3rd to 4th can be a drag with the muncie. I noticed that you can find a "updated" 3rd gear for the muncie rebuild and I was wondering if you had ever considered that option? Not even sure if it changes your 3rd gearing or not. My other options are a 4.7 or 4.1 with the addition of a overdrive that I can use to drop my gearing to 0.8. I want to shoot for about 2500 rpm at about 70mph. Hoping that om617 will have decent power at that speed.

04-21-2013, 07:53 PM	#150 (permalink)
jstncse Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 190020 Location: in the high desert Posts: 3	I won't speak for anybody else but I am running about 3000 rpm's in 4th gear at 70mph. I think this works well and would allow the use of an overdrive on occasion. Pushing an FJ40 through the air at 70 is about all you can expect out of the OM617. __________________ Mercedes powered FJ40

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