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Old 05-10-2012, 10:07 PM   #126 (permalink)
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i'm bumbed for you manny

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Old 05-11-2012, 05:33 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Manny. have you tried to talk to dave? his buddy did the same swap in a CJ.

good luck with this. Major bummer. what shop was this at?

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Old 05-19-2012, 06:46 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Good Luck Mr. Manny.

I'm on my second OM617, lost the first one to excessive boost and almost gave up on my project. Now I'm glad that I didn't give up, the motor that I have in the truck now has no blow-by and runs very well.

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Old 07-10-2012, 09:47 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Since you have one of the few OM617 swapped 40's that I can find I was curious what you think would be the ideal transmission for it or would you stick with the 465? Thinking about doing this swap but very unclear about transmission choices. I sure would love to just keep the Toyota 4-speed and tcase but can't find any adapters.

I wish you luck too with getting it back on the road. I recently toasted a freshly rebuilt 2f by a dumb oversight and know how you feel.

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I just caught wind of your post Manny! Bad news! I loath those places. Hope you get some good news out of all this. Let me know if you need any help.

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Old 07-13-2012, 09:53 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Manny. have you tried to talk to dave? his buddy did the same swap in a CJ.



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he came down to look at it. any up dates Manny?
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Saw Georg over the weekend...no updates to report.

Picked up another 300D, just in case
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from across the border, I spy a benz motor on a stand
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from across the border, I spy a benz motor on a stand
lucky...hope to be on the other-side next month


Project is back on Georg's calendar

Benzo was needed for some R&D testing





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Stayed late and tore into it. Doesn't look to bad.
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Stayed late and tore into it. Doesn't look to bad.
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Doing a rebuild or finding a new motor? If you do a rebuild keep track of what you do and prices. Ive heard these motors are upwards or $6000 to rebuild but I have such a hard time believing that...
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Doing a rebuild or finding a new motor? If you do a rebuild keep track of what you do and prices. Ive heard these motors are upwards or $6000 to rebuild but I have such a hard time believing that...
Holly trashed pistons BatMan...that explains the low compression numbers

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Replacement motor came from a downer 300d




More affordable then a rebuilt longblock Mercedes Rebuilt Engines
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TOO HOT EGT"s ??????
Mr.Manny , You want a ride ???
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Holly trashed pistons BatMan...that explains the low compression numbers

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More affordable then a rebuilt longblock Mercedes Rebuilt Engines
Thats pretty on-par with what Ive heard. I've always wondered what someone with machine shop access could do price wise. Even if you found a decent motor a honed the cylinders .010 over and had pistons made you could still come out cheaper than the "correct" MB replacement of every part and bolt.
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Mr.Manny , You want a ride ???

Thanks Uncle...Rig should be done before Rubithon

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Thanks Uncle...Rig should be done before Rubithon

Good lookn out for your nephew

I certainly hope so!!!!!!!
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Mr.Ice cream man next time you come over to the shop hit me up. Glad to see the greenburrto is getting a new fart maker transplant
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Manny- did they oil shop ever try to set things straight?

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Putting a very similar build into my 1965 series 2a land rover.

465 muncie
Stock LR Series Tcase (1.15 high /2.35 low)
Will be running 32 inch tires for now. Rig will be a DD with respectable offroad capabilities. Leaf sprung. Might put a 3 inch lift on it put some 35's on it in the future.

Right now I am trying to figure out what axle gearing to go with. Buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 3.54 rear 24 spline but i know how shifting from 3rd to 4th can be a drag with the muncie. I noticed that you can find a "updated" 3rd gear for the muncie rebuild and I was wondering if you had ever considered that option? Not even sure if it changes your 3rd gearing or not.

My other options are a 4.7 or 4.1 with the addition of a overdrive that I can use to drop my gearing to 0.8. I want to shoot for about 2500 rpm at about 70mph. Hoping that om617 will have decent power at that speed.
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Putting a very similar build into my 1965 series 2a land rover.

465 muncie
Stock LR Series Tcase (1.15 high /2.35 low)
Will be running 32 inch tires for now. Rig will be a DD with respectable offroad capabilities. Leaf sprung. Might put a 3 inch lift on it put some 35's on it in the future.

Right now I am trying to figure out what axle gearing to go with. Buddy of mine is trying to talk me into 3.54 rear 24 spline but i know how shifting from 3rd to 4th can be a drag with the muncie. I noticed that you can find a "updated" 3rd gear for the muncie rebuild and I was wondering if you had ever considered that option? Not even sure if it changes your 3rd gearing or not.

My other options are a 4.7 or 4.1 with the addition of a overdrive that I can use to drop my gearing to 0.8. I want to shoot for about 2500 rpm at about 70mph. Hoping that om617 will have decent power at that speed.
The upgraded 3rd gear for the sm465 is simply to fix the popping out of gear issues that are natural to the stock trans. These motors rev out somewhere around 5200rpm +/-. 2500rpm is a good RPM to shoot at but as manny has said in the past the sm465 is lack luster for keeping the motor in a good rpm range. Im going with a w56 toy 5 speed in my project.
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I won't speak for anybody else but I am running about 3000 rpm's in 4th gear at 70mph. I think this works well and would allow the use of an overdrive on occasion. Pushing an FJ40 through the air at 70 is about all you can expect out of the OM617.
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