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Old 06-10-2012, 07:12 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm no suspension expert, but I was always told you should do a wishbone with the bolt running through the heim in a vertical orientation. The way you have it now is going to sideload the hell out of that heim and wear it out/blow it out much faster than if it were turned 90*.
If you look at the first page, post #10, you can see I originally had it that way. However, I needed the heim to come down some, and couldn't find a good way to tie it all into the axle bridge, so I changed it. Building these things is all about compromise, and when I look at my Ultra4 car that has had the same setup for 3 years, I decided that this thing will never be driven that hard so it shouldn't be an issue. This is a rockcrawler/street rig.

You'd be surprised the amount of desert racers that still run the bolt horizontally, so I don't think it's as huge a deal as people make it out to be. That all being said, you won't catch any racers that I build now with the bolt this way.
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Thanks, I've been envisioning trailing arms on mine for the same reason. I've only seen one other 40 that way and it was the yellow samco one. I've seen quite a few wishbone/ trailing arm setups, wasn't sure if there was another reason for it or not.
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If you look at the first page, post #10, you can see I originally had it that way. However, I needed the heim to come down some, and couldn't find a good way to tie it all into the axle bridge, so I changed it. Building these things is all about compromise, and when I look at my Ultra4 car that has had the same setup for 3 years, I decided that this thing will never be driven that hard so it shouldn't be an issue. This is a rockcrawler/street rig.

You'd be surprised the amount of desert racers that still run the bolt horizontally, so I don't think it's as huge a deal as people make it out to be. That all being said, you won't catch any racers that I build now with the bolt this way.
Got it. Not that you should/would go back and change it now, but what about welding a nut to the inside of the truss so that the heim could sit all the way down on top of the truss? You could accomplish the same thing now(with the truss welded on) by welding the nut to a piece of plate and the cutting out a hole in the top of the truss for the nut to recess into and then weld the plate to the truss.

Anyway, I'll stop critiqueing something I have no actual experience with.
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i was going to do trailing arms. but to clear the rear frame with the shocks i would have had to move the frame mount so far out i didnt like it. would be a boulder hanger.
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i was going to do trailing arms. but to clear the rear frame with the shocks i would have had to move the frame mount so far out i didnt like it. would be a boulder hanger.
Yep, this was a huge issue to me. I always like to build a bridge between my link mounts that hang down, this one was a little tougher since it's outside the frame. I'll get a side view picture of what I did, but you can sort of see it in the pic of the belly skeleton.
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Got it. Not that you should/would go back and change it now, but what about welding a nut to the inside of the truss so that the heim could sit all the way down on top of the truss? You could accomplish the same thing now(with the truss welded on) by welding the nut to a piece of plate and the cutting out a hole in the top of the truss for the nut to recess into and then weld the plate to the truss.

Anyway, I'll stop critiqueing something I have no actual experience with.
I definitely could have done that, especially since the heim is a little forward of the truss now than in the original pictures. If there is ever a problem, I may do that, but at this point I have to get this thing done.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:04 PM   #57 (permalink)
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She fired up for the first time last week!

Pics of the fuel tank all finished up. Not sure how many gallons it holds yet.





Also, I got the new rockers done today. They also serve as the main body mount, as well as having the A and B pillars of the cage tied to them. I'll get better pics of how it all ties to the frame once I can get a hold of the wife's camera.

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Nice fab work!
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:30 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Working on some upper steering arms today





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after looking at your quality of work i think im going to give up fabbing and wheeling and try something else. perhaps needle point or maybe i could just join a book club. you have set the bar very high sir-keep up the good work! or ease up a little so my rig doesnt look so bad
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This is exactly what I am thinning of for mine. Can you get me some better pics of how you set this up?

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Old 08-22-2012, 08:13 AM   #63 (permalink)
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after looking at your quality of work i think im going to give up fabbing and wheeling and try something else. perhaps needle point or maybe i could just join a book club. you have set the bar very high sir-keep up the good work! or ease up a little so my rig doesnt look so bad
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This is exactly what I am thinning of for mine. Can you get me some better pics of how you set this up?

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after looking at your quality of work i think im going to give up fabbing and wheeling and try something else. perhaps needle point or maybe i could just join a book club. you have set the bar very high sir-keep up the good work! or ease up a little so my rig doesnt look so bad

my thoughts EXACTLY!!! that shit is CLEAN. i love the stock stylings kept throughout
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Got the cage back from powdercoat, time to put it all back together.







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Fuel tank is in. Holds about 27 gallons.







Put her on the scales to get some new springs coming. She was about 800#s less than I thought @ 4235 empty, with 50.1% side to side ratio, and 50.3% front to rear.

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did you do all the machine work here?
i really like your arms, looks smokin. how much for those bearing caps?


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i would have thought less weight also, youve taken alot of heavy crap off of there. i weighed in at 3880 fully loaded ready to wheel with a full tank of gas...and i just shaved a bunch more weight off so ill be reweighing soon
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[QUOTE=gnob;14732331]did you do all the machine work here?
i really like your arms, looks smokin. how much for those bearing caps?

No the owner of the Cruiser owns a machine shop, so he built those. Trying to get him to get me a price on them though.
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i would have thought less weight also, youve taken alot of heavy crap off of there. i weighed in at 3880 fully loaded ready to wheel with a full tank of gas...and i just shaved a bunch more weight off so ill be reweighing soon
I guess I have no idea what FJ40s weigh. I'm used to 1-ton Jeeps that usually weigh in around 4500, I figured this thing would be way heavier than that.
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Does that tank hang below the frame at all? I really like that idea for the gas tank. Any reinforcement inside to handle the seat?
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Does that tank hang below the frame at all? I really like that idea for the gas tank. Any reinforcement inside to handle the seat?
Yes it hangs down 5" at its lowest point, but slopes from the rear bumper height. No reinforcement plates inside, the tabs are close enough to the seams where I didn't feel the need, plus most of the tank is built from 3/16" plate.

Also included a pic where you see the fuel pre-filter and pump. It tucks nicely next to the back of the diff, we'll have to change it though if he ever goes to a centered diff.



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what fuel pump and filter are you using?
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