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Old 08-23-2010, 08:46 AM   #176 (permalink)
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I gota agree with Wilson. If your going to do a cell at least do one you can put a filler neck on and plumb your evap system into.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:55 AM   #177 (permalink)
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I dunno. I'm brainstorming. I like the fuel cell idea though.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:58 AM   #178 (permalink)
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My evap system is under the hood. All my tank has is a pressure out, a return, and a vent. The cell will have these as well.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:23 AM   #179 (permalink)
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sweet, you actually went through with it. hook me up with those motor mounts for now. ill get them off you when i come back to town. fuel cell? just run the tank you got for it.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:14 PM   #180 (permalink)
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This sucks. I don't have enough money to gear this thing before the jambo. So looks like it's 4.10s welded for one trip (one really really easy, no box, no soup, straight through and home trip). It's going to suck driving there with 4.10s and 40s. This thing is going to barely trail worthy hahah. Oh well, I'll be there!
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:29 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Smog was jsut one concern with teh cell. The others would be filling it on the road. I am ASSuming it will sit in the back luggage area, which means all of your gear will be piled on top of it, smelling of fuel and generally in the way when you want to "top off" before hitting the trail. Why not just get a new pump and run the ford tank? It's not worth it in the long run to sacrifice aspects of your build so you can make the jambo. In the end it will cost you more time and money. Take your time and do it right, it will be done when it's done and you will be happier because of it.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:39 PM   #182 (permalink)
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Damn you and your reason. How about this. I don't like the ford tank because there is no baffling. Plus I fucked up my tank already be welding in the Toyota sending unit stuff. BUT, I have another tank and a carb sending unit (no intank pump, just fuel gauge). What do you all think about me running that tank with the carb sending unit with a couple walbro pickups in the tank and running that summit online pump. It will look correct, have all the correct evap stuff and a filler neck in the correct place. Plus it will be better in off camber situations than the regular intank pump.

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Is there baffling in the other tank? Could always do quality foam or wiffle balls. My walboro's would suck the tank bone dry, but I had 4 of them. The reality for you is that you will be less likely to be running on fumes because you will top off before hitting the trail.
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Damn so I leave for two months and you steal my rig and start building it already
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Damn you and your reason. How about this. I don't like the ford tank because there is no baffling. Plus I fucked up my tank already be welding in the Toyota sending unit stuff. BUT, I have another tank and a carb sending unit (no intank pump, just fuel gauge). What do you all think about me running that tank with the carb sending unit with a couple walbro pickups in the tank and running that summit online pump. It will look correct, have all the correct evap stuff and a filler neck in the correct place. Plus it will be better in off camber situations than the regular intank pump.

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ford tank works fine in eriks truck and hes been in every postiion except on his side
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Just find the right tank. Mine is from a 94' F150 with the 5.8L. Ford pump works just fine even with my supercharger and no fuel upgrades. It fits PERFECTLY into the rig between the frame rails, but given how far back you moved the axle, you may have hosed yourself even on that tank.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:28 PM   #187 (permalink)
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i think im going to go with the carbed tank for sure. its exactly the same in every dimension as all the other EFI tanks everyone is using, ill just throw a couple walbros in there and run an inline pump and be tits. it will run in EVERY situation.

btw, i have some pics. . . . . .up in a few.
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alright, here we go.

shitty pics. but you get the idea. here you can see the new frame. its 2x3x.180 box. i tied it in right infront of the vin number. everything farther forward was fucked up from the wreck. and the original frame was still about .75" out of square, we took care of it though. frame rails are 45" long, and are 29.5" between eachother. this is more than stock, but it will be fine. i made it just long enough to sneak in my M8000 once i cut some of the core support out.

second pic is the fishplate im making. the inner piece will look nearly identical to this one, and there will be a bottom piece to tie it all together nicely. and yes, i know im retarded and cut out a VIN window for the drivers side too haha.

you can see what happens to a PSC pump when you abuse it. . . . dont use shitty tools and follow the instructions. i have a new back plate on the way $20. thank god they dont make you buy a whole new one.

and what is this? it was in the drivers side inner fender, and had nothing hooked to it. charcoal canister?

my new york pulley. so far no a single piece of this kit of worked without mods except this pulley.

finishing the fish plates tomorrow and beginning on the motor mounts. not reusing any of the original mounts. 2 of the 3 bolt holes on the drivers side block are blown out, so im going to have to find other holes to use for the motor mount over there. plus the stocker mounts are cast.
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Old 08-24-2010, 09:38 AM   #190 (permalink)
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That canister was a vacuum reservoir for the ADD.

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ford tank works fine in eriks truck and hes been in every postiion except on his side
Seems to work well there too.





I remember I was going to do the walbros too though... never got around to it.

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Old 08-24-2010, 08:09 PM   #191 (permalink)
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I doubt you will make the MCR
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:47 PM   #192 (permalink)
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you sir are a hater.
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i finished the frame tonight. tomorrow is either going to be motor mounts, or im going to throw the front axle under it and build my upper mount incase it interferes with the drivers side motor mount.
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This sucks. I don't have enough money to gear this thing before the jambo. So looks like it's 4.10s welded for one trip (one really really easy, no soup, straight through and home trip).
your a fuckin pussy! you'll hit soup you fag. thats one of the only things that you can see what that thing can actually do.
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oh ya, truck looks tight.
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:24 PM   #196 (permalink)
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fell into a little money, i might be able to gear it, well see.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:34 PM   #198 (permalink)
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uhhh no, thats my only car dude.
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:02 AM   #199 (permalink)
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What York kit are you using?

I have the PNWF kit on my 3.4 and it took a lot of work to get the thing in. Space is one issue but the instructions and bracket weren't thought out well enough. The creator had a 4Runner with and auto and I have the 5 speed so I have less room. The bracket also wasn't square and did not allow for perfect alignment with proper belt tension.

I've had it for over a year and it's all good now but when I spent 2 days installing everything and paying whatever I paid for it I was a little disappointed.
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Same kit, I'll makE it work. So far I've had to mod every bit of it except the pulley.
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