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Old 10-17-2011, 06:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
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We went over the whole diff with a fine comb and couldn't find anything...we are debating on whether to throw this one back in or get a Yukon Grizzly locker with a new R&P in a v6 carrier...after all when it comes down to it this is a Lunch box locker and who knows how much longer it can withstand the bigger tires and abuse we put it through.



Wow that is just crazy...maybe that was a bad batch. I mean to break on the street on 34s...?
Well its a lot of stress on that 2 pin carrier and center pin
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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My aussie locker is unpredictable, sometimes is will make a gentle click as I coast around a corner but other times it will do the jerky/clicky/poppy shit. I usually give it some gas to get it to stop. I get funny looks from people like whats wrong with that stupid thing!
Mine was a bit noisy at first but it seems to have broken in after some miles with the hubs locked. The last two trips I haven't heard it all and it's 100% predictable. How long have you had yours? Did you shim it properly when you installed it?

I'm running v6 3rds so I'm getting the stronger cross pin design which is very important with lunch box lockers.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I recently bought a '93 std cab sb 4x4. I've heard some good reviews on these Spartan lockers. I am convinced after reading here.. So.. where does one go to get the best price for one..?

ps. I had a lockright in my TJ and loved it.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:51 AM   #29 (permalink)
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check the vendors section, you've got a few options... i can't speak for all of them, but i've had great luck dealing with Wayne at DiffsOnly:
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I liked my spartan, untill the cross pin blew up... but at the same time my ring gear broke 3 teeth (trail-gear set)



in my SAS 2nd gen 4runner with 5.29s and 37s. I was climbing up a steep snowy hill.

It was in the rear 4 cyl diff, so I don't know if the R&P went first or if it was the cross pin.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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check the vendors section, you've got a few options... i can't speak for all of them, but i've had great luck dealing with Wayne at DiffsOnly:
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We got ours from Wyne Great guy to deal with and shipped out our lockers really fast! He gets 2 thumbs up from me!
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:17 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You are right, Longfield does not make rear axles, my bad, aww fu*% it, it happens. I broke an aussie locker at KOH, it lasted 5 years, 3 years on 35's and 2 years on 37's. I am now spooled, it works well.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:21 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Finally managed to destroy my rear spartan this weekend, broke the center pin in 3 pieces and one of the center cogs in half. Used a stick welder in camp and made it a spool to finish out the weekend.
Update both Spartans destroyed in one season.
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That is why I run Longfields Senor, but I guess every product has its breaking point.
yep same here, broke a dirty 30 first trip out on it, within 2 hours.


ive broken four 30 spline longfields but they last longer from my experience
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:39 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I have been running a Spartan in the front of my junk. Never had any issues. I ran a Lockright before that and without a doubt would recommed a Spartan. Only issue I have seen with a Spartan is a buddy busted a birf and the shaft broke the inner spacer. One call and three days later he had a new piece from rand's ring and pinion.
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been running a lockrite in the rear of a 83 used and abused for 13 years street, trail, arena, and tufftruck... no problem
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Sorry to bump this thread but is the 4cyl diff really that much weaker than the V6? I just bought a Spartan for my 4cyl rear end and am now starting to worry about the strength and longevity due to some of these posts.


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Sorry to bump this thread but is the 4cyl diff really that much weaker than the V6? I just bought a Spartan for my 4cyl rear end and am now starting to worry about the strength and longevity due to some of these posts.


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The v6 has some bigger parts here and there but they arent things people are regularly breaking. I just researched all this when contemplating rebuilding 4 banger thirds into v6. keep those 4 cyl thirds!
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Sorry to bump this thread but is the 4cyl diff really that much weaker than the V6? I just bought a Spartan for my 4cyl rear end and am now starting to worry about the strength and longevity due to some of these posts. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
I do not think so; I ran a 4 cyl ARB’ed diff with Genuine gears for many. It was in the rear before I did the SAS (DD) and then switched it to the front. Never had any problems with it. Retired it to spare status when I went Hy-Pinion in the front.
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Sorry to bump this thread but is the 4cyl diff really that much weaker than the V6? I just bought a Spartan for my 4cyl rear end and am now starting to worry about the strength and longevity due to some of these posts.


Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
The only thing that is really weaker is the 2 pinion open carrier, which only applies if you are running a drop in locker like a Lock Right, Aussie, or Spartan. (which you are doing)

If you weld the diff, or replace the carrier with a full case locker, then it's about the same...


Tire size/driving style/gearing/etc will make a huge difference in reliability.

The worst it will do is break the cross pin in the diff.






FYI the High Pinion front axles also use a 2 pinion carrier which uses "4cyl" style drop in lockers. My buddy has broke 2 cross pins in his with no damage to anything else in the axle. Next time it breaks he is going to a Detroit or Grizzly locker.

I ran v6 diffs with a Lock Right front and Aussie locker rear and broke many ring and pinion sets and axles (including 30 spline Longs)
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^^^I ordered the "heavy duty" cross pin shaft so hopefully that lessens the chance of breaking.


EDIT: after doing some reading, I have found that quite a few people have broken these "upgraded" center pin shafts, which worries me. Is the factory Toyota center pin shaft any better?
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X2 on TBItoy's comment.

As for 4 cyl cross pins, I have broke a few. All factory ones. One in two different places.

IMOP with a proper R&P setup these are the weak link.

Keep the front end on the ground..... Or get out of the throttle before the tires hit the ground. This is how I broke all of them.
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Hmm. Hopefully it will hold up in my rear end. Now it's just a matter of the factory Toyota center pin shaft or the "heavy duty" Spartan center pin shaft.
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Well I just finished installing the Spartan locker in my rear end last night and everything seems to be working properly so far! Luckily, I haven't been hearing any of the noises that some people are describing. Now I'm dying to go wheeling!
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thats cause trail gear sucks
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Wtf are u talking about? You suffering from trail gear terrets?
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thats cause trail gear sucks
trail gear doesnt suck but their non turned down chromo rear axle shafts sure do suck, 30yr old stock shafts are stronger
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You know it all comes down to how you drive your rig...if you have any kind of lead foot shit is going to break! There is no way around it, keep it light, crawl and bump only when needed. Shit will last if put together right! I would say this is the biggest reason why our Spartans have lasted so long!
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