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Old 08-18-2001, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Pics of my $60 t-case brake

A lot of people asked me about my t-case brake setup so I finally took a few pics of it.
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If someone wants the details on the caliper and disk that I used I could re-post the info.

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Old 08-18-2001, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah man post what u used. i need one of these.

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looks great ,!!,, I'm interested in what you used,, and if I can modify the disc to fit my t-case flange,(which is the big hole pattern rear 1988 V-6 diff flange I installed on the 4 cyl t-case), Please go into detail,, And you can send it to me at webilt@hotmail.com . Thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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Old 08-18-2001, 07:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I went to a local metal fab place and bought a 7" diameter 1/8" thick stainless disk drilled for my output flange (old style with small bolt holes). I went to a local autoparts store and bought a mechanical caliper made by Airheart, apparently it's the same one used by Wilwood. It came with a caliper mount kit that you can weld or bolt on. The label on the caliper says: Tol-o-matic, Hamel, MN, USA. Part # 30000001, Descr. :0213930 CAL MB1-12CW. D-30005002.
The disk cost me $35 CDN and the Caliper was $60 CDN. including the mount. I used my original rear brake cable routed around to come off the driver's side frame. So the total cost was $95 CDN plus some fabbing.

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Old 08-18-2001, 08:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's a cool setup man. You make the T-case xmember? Looks good. I recently bought a bender so I was thinkin' of trying that.

As I'm in Canada as well, what store did you get the Airheart caliper from?
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<STRONG>That's a cool setup man. You make the T-case xmember? Looks good. I recently bought a bender so I was thinkin' of trying that.

As I'm in Canada as well, what store did you get the Airheart caliper from?</STRONG>
I got the plate that bolts to the t/case from DRM and I made the crossmember with my tubing bender. The caliper came from Princess auto.

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OMG!!! I was thinking the same thing. That disk and caliper are used on the go-carts we sold at work. Thats a great idea. but it can be done a whole lot cheaper. a go-cart caliper which is the same one that u have is about $15 bucks and the disk is about $7.
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...Hmmm... When we moved in to the new house, I found a snowmobile steering column, complete with disc brake... Knew I'd need it "Jon, you don't need it. It's just gonna take up space" "No, I WILL Need it, I just don't know for what yet..." <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Awesome.
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<STRONG>...Hmmm... When we moved in to the new house, I found a snowmobile steering column, complete with disc brake... Knew I'd need it "Jon, you don't need it. It's just gonna take up space" "No, I WILL Need it, I just don't know for what yet..." <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Awesome.</STRONG>
I used a snowmobile caliper on the one that I built for my friend. It doesn't have quite the clamping force that mine has though.

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Hows the pricess auto caliper holding up I'v seen it before but was iffy on its strength?
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So you use that INSTEAD OF your rear brakes? Isn't it a lot smaller? Doesn't it warp a lot due to having to apply so much force to stop? Or am I missing something?

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I think your missing something its an e brake only.
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Also works thru the rear axle gear reduction.
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looks good <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

my breaks still work but in the future when i can get ride of the drums! nice idea
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FYI... that would be a parking brake... not a substitute for an emergency brake or a rear brake.

Nice Tass... long time no see... if I come back to Canada will you throw one on my truck <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>Thats a great idea. but it can be done a whole lot cheaper. a go-cart caliper which is the same one that u have is about $15 bucks and the disk is about $7.</STRONG>
OK...post where we can get these parts a "whole lot cheaper".

Include part numbers please.
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Tass,

Pretty snazzy setup y'got there. Nice work. Those t-case mounted e-brakes are popular with the Samurai crowd, too. Does it hold as well as the original drum e-brakes to you? Have you used it in a true 'emergency' situation? Don't mean to sound pessimistic <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0">
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<STRONG>OK...post where we can get these parts a "whole lot cheaper".

Include part numbers please.</STRONG>
I was looking through the Northern Tool catalog last night - I saw a rotor for like $15 and a caliper w/ universal bracket for like $27...
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Old 08-20-2001, 03:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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anybody know anything about gokart calipers? Found these with a quick search, but they look pretty cheesy.
http://www.mfgsupply.com/catalog/go-...index.html?;;9
http://www.jackssmallengines.com/gokartbrake.cfm
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OK, so I spent a few hours last night searching the net.....

Best ones seem to be Tol-o-matic and Hayes.

www.tolomatic.com
www.hayesbrake.com/hayesind/mech_cal_brakes_ld_hydraulic.html

I used the "find disatributor" link on the Tolomatic site, and found a local industrial supply. She ordered me one of the MB1-12CCW's
for $22.46

Now I just have to come up with a rotor and make a bracket.... <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I would have liked to get an 1110M from Hayes instead, but they're website sux in that there is no price or contact info....

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If some of you are interested in the disk I could get some made. I would have them drill the holes for the old style and the new style drivelines so you could use it for all year trucks. It would be around $20USD which I think is pretty reasonable for a stainless disk that bolts right on.
As for my caliper, I just put it on and have only tried it in the driveway but it seems to be holding up good so far, I guess we'll see.

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Tass,
I'm thinking I want to have the center hole big enough so I can mount the disc on the back of the flange (similar to what a well-known Toyota aftermarket busness already does with theirs)... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I'm going to do some checking around here to see what a disc would run.....

Let me know what you find out....I might be interested in one.
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where can i find that disc here in california?
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Awesome job.......doesn't it feel great to have saved $240 <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> off the allpro price for one of this?? I'm for sure going to look into this.......THANKS <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
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