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Old 11-16-2004, 08:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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new clutch making whining noise

just replaced my clutch, flywheel, both bearings, slave & master cyl on 88 v6. Its a marlin clutch, and a reman flywheel. Now getting a whining noise when i let the clutch out. The noise stops when clutch is pushed in all the way or all the way out. Sounds almost like a loose belt but i know that is not it. Besides the noise the clutch works fine. did notice the pedal is a little light but thinking thats just cause the new slave & master (also may need to rebleed). Anyone have this problem? Ideas on what could be wrong? Is this normal for new clutch & flywheel?

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Old 11-17-2004, 05:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mine did the same thing after I replaced all the same stuff; it had a real soft whine. It'll stop after break-in.
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Could be your throwout bearing too. The reason it doesn't make that noise when the clutch is engaged is because the bearing doesn't have a load on it. Let the clutch out, and that's when your bearing will start to make noise. I hope that's not it and that it's a break-in thing, but it's entirely possible.
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it was a new throwout bearing so it better not be bad. I checked it out before putting it in and it seemed fine.
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Just bcause it's new doesn't necessarily mean it isn't defective.
My is doing the same thing.
Defective throwout bearing.
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it was a new throwout bearing so it better not be bad. I checked it out before putting it in and it seemed fine.
Drive it for a while and see if it quits, TO bearings sometimes make noise for a bit. If it gets worse pull the tranny and see whats up. It could be a bad TO or since you live in California serve it some cheese to go with the whine!!!!!
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just replaced my clutch, flywheel, both bearings, slave & master cyl on 88 v6. Its a marlin clutch, and a reman flywheel. Now getting a whining noise when i let the clutch out. The noise stops when clutch is pushed in all the way or all the way out. Sounds almost like a loose belt but i know that is not it. Besides the noise the clutch works fine. did notice the pedal is a little light but thinking thats just cause the new slave & master (also may need to rebleed). Anyone have this problem? Ideas on what could be wrong? Is this normal for new clutch & flywheel?

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A bad TO bearing would make noise (if it makes noise) when holding in the clutch -- max pressure/max spin -- which you say it does not. It would stop when the clutch pedal is released - no pressure/no spin. Since the pilot bearing can only spin when the clutch has been disengaged from the flywheel, it sounds like it could be a bad/noisey pilot bearing. I've done lots of clutch jobs over the years and never have had a defective TO bearing or pilot bearing out of the box, but it's entirely possible. I do not believe a clutch job with new parts should make ANY noise!! If the noise (whine) was in the tranny, you should hear it with the clutch out - right?
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I suppose it could be the pilot bearing also...
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it only makes a noise when the clutch starts to grab. So when u start letting the clutch out, no noise till u can feel it start to grab, then as let it out more and more it gets louder, when fully engaged then no more noise. I had a mechanic listen and he thinks its just the new flywheel and clutch groving. So plan to put more miles on it and see if it gets worse or better. as of now it only has about a quarter mile on it.
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Mine does the same thing.....just run it or change the Throw out bearing and go with it.
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it only makes a noise when the clutch starts to grab. So when u start letting the clutch out, no noise till u can feel it start to grab, then as let it out more and more it gets louder, when fully engaged then no more noise. I had a mechanic listen and he thinks its just the new flywheel and clutch groving. So plan to put more miles on it and see if it gets worse or better. as of now it only has about a quarter mile on it.
I'm not there to hear it, but I don't think this is normal. If the clutch disc and the flywheel at contact are making that much noise, something is wrong with the surface of the flywheel or the clutch disc. Could you have the clutch disc in backwards? How smooth was the surface of the flywheel? Can you drive it around for 30 minutes with lots of stop and go to see if it goes away?
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almost for got....I snapped the cast iron things(want to call them supports) from transmission to block, that allowed the some of the bolts to back out from tranny to block...

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Could you have the clutch disc in backwards? How smooth was the surface of the flywheel?
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clutch disk would only fit one way so i assume its in correct. Can not remember what the flywheel surface was like... i wanna say it was a little rough, not as smooth as the one i took out. Should be ready to drive home tomorrow so will run it around town for a bit and see if it gets better.
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clutch disk would only fit one way so i assume its in correct. Can not remember what the flywheel surface was like... i wanna say it was a little rough, not as smooth as the one i took out. Should be ready to drive home tomorrow so will run it around town for a bit and see if it gets better.
If the machining on the flywheel was abnormally rough, driving it around will most likely "smooth" it out. Let us know.
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I recently install new clutch in my 88 runner 3.0. I used a cheap Luk clutch kit from pep boys. I also Had a whine when it was first installed. I believe it was the throw out bearing. It did go away afte a few day and a approx 100 miles.
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I recently install new clutch in my 88 runner 3.0. I used a cheap Luk clutch kit from pep boys. I also Had a whine when it was first installed. I believe it was the throw out bearing. It did go away afte a few day and a approx 100 miles.
I don't know about what Pep Boys call "Luk", but Luk as a brand is one of the best clutch/pressure plate manufacturers around.
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