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Old 08-16-2001, 08:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Standard cross over owners, need your help

So I am looking at all my options on going crossover. I am trying to get standard x/over because I have a low lift and low sump (v8). But here is my dilemma I have a right have drive 4x4 (live in OZ).

I have looked at Aqualu and all-pro arms and think they may fit, but need confirmation. I contacted aqualu they seem to think it will not fit but don't know for sure!!

From pictures (see below) it looks like the top arm kicks forward and the bottom arm kick back (on a left hand 4x4), so on a right hand 4x4 it will be reverse the top arm kicks back and the bottom arm kicks forward! Is my understanding correct?? If so then it should work on a right hand drive 4x4 ??

Here is some pics of Joe Chacon's double arm setup, all-pros arm.
<IMG width=658 height=708 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/crossover1.jpg">

<IMG width=450 height=319 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/arm10t.jpg">


So does anyone have some measurements and pictures of these arms. Particularly front on and from the top. I need measurements from the center of the arm to the end of each point of the arm like this:

<IMG width=463 height=645 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/crossover3.jpg">

By looking at this picture it would suggest that if the arm was placed on the other side it would fit ??

Please don't suggest weilding an arm, it is illegal in Australia.

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You can't use a welded arm over there - correct?

If I read you right - you want to use the arm pictured but on the OTHER side of the axle... And I say it won't work because the arm will be all in the sidwewall of the tire...
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do they inspect your steering arm? I'd make my own...

Marlin makes em and so do a lot of others, but yea they are welded..
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Chris,

Seems a top-view of the arm might tell you more. I would think that the aftermarket manufacturers would have to have a complete set of engineering drawings in order to produce the arms. From your illustrations, it would appear that the lower arm is farther offset than the upper arm, so it 'might' work. Would the tilt of the upper tie rod hole cause problems w/ axle articulation?

I've seen arms in full knuckle-over configuration that appear to come straight out from the cap bolts.

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<STRONG>do they inspect your steering arm? I'd make my own...

Marlin makes em and so do a lot of others, but yea they are welded..</STRONG>
Yes they do!! But if I don't get it expected and I get pulled over by the cops or have a accident then I am stuffed.

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Old 08-17-2001, 12:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally posted by TN Bender:
<STRONG>You can't use a welded arm over there - correct?

If I read you right - you want to use the arm pictured but on the OTHER side of the axle... And I say it won't work because the arm will be all in the sidwewall of the tire...</STRONG>
Your understanding is correct.
But If you look at the picture with the red lines it looks like that the bottom arm is angled more then the top arm therefore the arms would be further away from the tyre ??
Or am I missing something??

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<STRONG>Chris,

Seems a top-view of the arm might tell you more. I would think that the aftermarket manufacturers would have to have a complete set of engineering drawings in order to produce the arms. From your illustrations, it would appear that the lower arm is farther offset than the upper arm, so it 'might' work. Would the tilt of the upper tie rod hole cause problems w/ axle articulation?

I've seen arms in full knuckle-over configuration that appear to come straight out from the cap bolts.

[ 08-16-2001: Message edited by: 0ILBURNER ]</STRONG>

That's I good point I never even thought about the tilt! This could very well be the reason it will not work!!

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