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MudShack · 08-22-2001, 09:09 AM

I am shopping for a 4runner, these are my options so far....what would you pick:

1) (fellow POR member's) $2300 obo - 1984 4runner 5spd, 175k miles, average rust, chipping paint job, 4" genuine sus. springs up front with 3" blocks and 2" shackles in the rear. Added SR5 gauges and seats. On 33" BFG muds with 50% left

2) $4001 1984 4runner with new 22r engine (<2000 miles) rebuilt 5 speed tranny, 2" AAL up front and 2" blocks in rear, basic interior with ripped seat, but the SR5 Clinometer. Entire truck has 167,000 miles on it, and NO rust anywhere on the body. Surface rust on frame only.

3) $2700 1985 SR5 4runner, 5 speed, 157,000 miles, only 45k miles on engine. Minor rust under pass window.

4) $4800 1985 4runner, AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, very minor rust under cap, 4" suspen, 3" BL, 35" Mud Kings, stock gears, Interior LOADED. THis could be a show truck.

5) $4000 1986 SR5 4runner (IFS), 5speed, 208,000 on original engine. No Rust! Tight transmission, pretty strong engine, Plush interior with all the options available. LOADED. But IFS.

Or 6) $5900 1975 FJ40, Hard top, soft top, new extra gas tank, new bra and a 1976 FJ40 as a parts truck.

Those are my options so far. I have a spending budget of $5400, and I have a set of 33x12.5 Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips I will put on whatever I get. I must be at least 4" high with whatever truck I buy. It will be a trail rig that will be safe enough to handle highway speed traffic around philly on a daily basis. I want flex.

Fire away!!

DRM · 08-22-2001, 09:11 AM

Simple - option 1 - cheapest <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Then use the rest of the $$$ to UPGRADE <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

convertiyota · 08-22-2001, 09:15 AM

I don't know??

6 comes with a parts truck.

I'd do 6 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

deleon87 · 08-22-2001, 09:18 AM

#3 if it is EFI if not the first one,and you will have money left over to put a dual crawlers or lift/ gears bunch of things that you can do with the money you saved.

but the land cruiser does look sweet

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: deleon87 ]

rockota · 08-22-2001, 09:19 AM

go with #3. No rust, SR5, EFI. Great foundation.....
bkg

85TrailToy · 08-22-2001, 09:24 AM

Dude, where the hell are you finding all these 4Runners???

Dick Hertzer · 08-22-2001, 09:28 AM

#1 for the price. Add a chevy spring swap and a rattle can paint job and spend the rest on a crawler.

emichie · 08-22-2001, 09:33 AM

i agree with Wellsville Warrior

#1 wiuld be the best bet

but #3 is also a good starting point if you have more $

toyzilla · 08-22-2001, 09:33 AM

#3 is the best choice. The Land Cruiser is nice, but I don't think you would be happy having that as your daily driver.

MudShack · 08-22-2001, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frame Bender:
Dude, where the hell are you finding all these 4Runners???

Bud, I have been searching the internet for 4 weeks straight. I have gotten 0 work done. LOL. I am ready to shed my IFS Tacoma and go retro!!! This excercise is for fun. I like the input.

MudShack · 08-22-2001, 09:44 AM

To All:

What kinda sucks, is my wife is liking the 86 IFS truck (#5). I drove #2 and #5. #2 had a lot of power for the little 22r. Sure sign of a new engine. And #5 was very very nice. But IFS and 208k on the truck.

I can't wait to actually drive the #1 truck and find out more info on #3. #3 just popped up on the radar screen today.

#4 just looks perfect, if it had 4.88 or better gears and had a 5spd, not the auto.

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I Lean · 08-22-2001, 10:51 AM

Remember, the auto can't have a crawler nearly as easily as a 5speed. My choice would be #3, for the EFI. An SAS on the IFS one wouldn't be too bad, but would cost money that you wouldn't need to spend on an '85.

msahr · 08-22-2001, 10:57 AM

For a Daily Driver / Wheeler: #3... Price, 5-speed, etc. That snowplow attachment on # 2 would scare me.

Not a Daily Driver? Go for the Land Cruiser, no question.

0ILBURNER · 08-22-2001, 10:59 AM

DEFINETLY #3 if it is EFI.

If not, then #1 & buy goodies for it.

MudShack · 08-22-2001, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by msahr:
...That snowplow attachment on # 2 would scare me..

It is coming off. The truck was used only one time to plow. You know how it happens...you buy a plow and then it never snows... That is what happened.

You guys are not jumping at #2 with the new engine and transmission. It comes with a warrentee. Is it because of the price? (oh and that one needs a paint job. Only a glossy primer right now)

rockota · 08-22-2001, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MudShack:
You guys are not jumping at #2 with the new engine and transmission. It comes with a warrentee. Is it because of the price? (oh and that one needs a paint job. Only a glossy primer right now)

Sounds like you may have made up your mind already!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Still say #3 is the best buy. Hell, if you don't buy it, I'm sure that there are at least 5-6 others on POR that would jump at it... now... if only I had money.. <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

MudShack · 08-22-2001, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Rockota:
Sounds like you may have made up your mind already!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
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Nope. I was just wondering why. I honestly am not jumping up and down for any of these trucks yet. I don't know enough about #3 yet. And it is 700 miles away. I have some pictures coming in the mail of a 85 SR5 Black 4runner running a ProComp 3" lift. Supposidly this truck is very sweet. But I have to see it. The price is $4800 for it.

I really want to know more info about the $3 truck before I start leaning in any direction.

RE:Todd · 08-22-2001, 11:26 AM

#3, #1, #5 in that order <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">. Check #7 also.

Priest · 08-22-2001, 11:35 AM

#3

Bjowett · 08-22-2001, 01:16 PM

I'm with most others here, the EFI makes for a much better engine. You just can't compare a carb to it. Plus you start out 16hp and 30 - 40 lb/ft of torque ahead. The lift and tahres are easy to ad... EFI is not.

Brian

82FB · 08-22-2001, 01:56 PM

I would go for #5, the IFS one. SAS it, crawl it, chevy/44044 it, 33's and go.

MudShack · 08-22-2001, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82FB:
I would go for #5, the IFS one. SAS it, crawl it, chevy/44044 it, 33's and go.

You picked the most expensive alternative. Why would you pic #5 over #3 if you were gonna SAS it? If I were to go with #5, I would stay IFS until that thing ran into the ground.

GfuNK · 08-22-2001, 04:41 PM

I think #1 would be better to buy cheap then spend more to fix up.

BigDaddy · 08-22-2001, 04:47 PM

1 no question.You can change over too EFI cheaper than SAS.....About the same time but less $$$$

flimmy · 08-22-2001, 07:36 PM

You forgot about #7, the 85 EFI 5spd 4runner( non sr5),all stock with 88k miles and very little rust around the rear fenders for $2000.I would choose # 1 or #7 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Frame Bender #1 should look familiar.You got some pics of it wheelin in MD.

[ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: flimmy ]

08-22-2001, 09:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
MudShack Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3481 Location: Lee's Summit, MO (KC) Posts: 688	Which would you pic? I am shopping for a 4runner, these are my options so far....what would you pick: 1) (fellow POR member's) $2300 obo - 1984 4runner 5spd, 175k miles, average rust, chipping paint job, 4" genuine sus. springs up front with 3" blocks and 2" shackles in the rear. Added SR5 gauges and seats. On 33" BFG muds with 50% left 2) $4001 1984 4runner with new 22r engine (<2000 miles) rebuilt 5 speed tranny, 2" AAL up front and 2" blocks in rear, basic interior with ripped seat, but the SR5 Clinometer. Entire truck has 167,000 miles on it, and NO rust anywhere on the body. Surface rust on frame only. 3) $2700 1985 SR5 4runner, 5 speed, 157,000 miles, only 45k miles on engine. Minor rust under pass window. 4) $4800 1985 4runner, AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, very minor rust under cap, 4" suspen, 3" BL, 35" Mud Kings, stock gears, Interior LOADED. THis could be a show truck. 5) $4000 1986 SR5 4runner (IFS), 5speed, 208,000 on original engine. No Rust! Tight transmission, pretty strong engine, Plush interior with all the options available. LOADED. But IFS. Or 6) $5900 1975 FJ40, Hard top, soft top, new extra gas tank, new bra and a 1976 FJ40 as a parts truck. Those are my options so far. I have a spending budget of $5400, and I have a set of 33x12.5 Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips I will put on whatever I get. I must be at least 4" high with whatever truck I buy. It will be a trail rig that will be safe enough to handle highway speed traffic around philly on a daily basis. I want flex. Fire away!! __________________ 97 LX450 - 295 Nitto AT's - SOLD 8/27/09 86 SAS 4Runner - SOLD - Wheeled on 33's w/ ARB.

08-22-2001, 09:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
DRM Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 8 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 34,957 Blog Entries: 1	Simple - option 1 - cheapest <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Then use the rest of the $$$ to UPGRADE <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0"> __________________ >David > 4x4Spot.com >It only hurts the first* time you agree with me...* >"A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men."

08-22-2001, 09:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
convertiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2685 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 3,892	I don't know?? 6 comes with a parts truck. I'd do 6 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> __________________ www.PoorBoys4wd.com

08-22-2001, 09:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
85TrailToy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2133 Location: Peoples Republic of MD Posts: 2,930	Dude, where the hell are you finding all these 4Runners??? __________________ 85 4Runner 4.88's 4.7's Lockers 35's Drivetrain/Gas tank lifted Dents all over [b]9-11-01: REMEMBER DAMMIT![/b] "Who's the fella owns this saloon?" [QUOTE=4RnrRick]Whay would woul have poer to teh wheels if I'm in neutal![/QUOTE]

08-22-2001, 09:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dick Hertzer Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4918 Location: Richwood, OH Posts: 610	#1 for the price. Add a chevy spring swap and a rattle can paint job and spend the rest on a crawler. __________________ Brent Nickel Ohio Wheeler [url]http://s94402200.onlinehome.us/pirate4x4search.html[/url]

08-22-2001, 09:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
deleon87 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 3955 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 1,059	#3 if it is EFI if not the first one,and you will have money left over to put a dual crawlers or lift/ gears bunch of things that you can do with the money you saved. but the land cruiser does look sweet [ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: deleon87 ]

08-22-2001, 09:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
rockota Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5371 Location: TN Posts: 3,384	go with #3. No rust, SR5, EFI. Great foundation..... bkg

08-22-2001, 09:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
emichie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4276 Location: maine Posts: 40	i agree with Wellsville Warrior #1 wiuld be the best bet but #3 is also a good starting point if you have more $ __________________ I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it so the little got more and more

08-22-2001, 09:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
toyzilla Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1340 Location: Citrus Heights, CA Posts: 2,254	#3 is the best choice. The Land Cruiser is nice, but I don't think you would be happy having that as your daily driver. __________________ Looking for a Realtor to buy, sell personal or investment property in the Sac area? Call me 769-7268

08-22-2001, 09:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
MudShack Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3481 Location: Lee's Summit, MO (KC) Posts: 688	To All: What kinda sucks, is my wife is liking the 86 IFS truck (#5). I drove #2 and #5. #2 had a lot of power for the little 22r. Sure sign of a new engine. And #5 was very very nice. But IFS and 208k on the truck. I can't wait to actually drive the #1 truck and find out more info on #3. #3 just popped up on the radar screen today. #4 just looks perfect, if it had 4.88 or better gears and had a 5spd, not the auto. [ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: MudShack ] [ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: MudShack ] __________________ 97 LX450 - 295 Nitto AT's - SOLD 8/27/09 86 SAS 4Runner - SOLD - Wheeled on 33's w/ ARB.

08-22-2001, 10:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
I Lean Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 10 Location: Magna, UT Posts: 1,667	Remember, the auto can't have a crawler nearly as easily as a 5speed. My choice would be #3, for the EFI. An SAS on the IFS one wouldn't be too bad, but would cost money that you wouldn't need to spend on an '85. __________________ Carl Whitmore

08-22-2001, 10:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
msahr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3847 Location: Cool comfy Arizona Posts: 489	For a Daily Driver / Wheeler: #3... Price, 5-speed, etc. That snowplow attachment on # 2 would scare me. Not a Daily Driver? Go for the Land Cruiser, no question. __________________ 85 4Runner 71 FJ40 94 FZJ80 Any escape might help to sooth the unattractive truth but the subdivisions have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth

08-22-2001, 10:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
0ILBURNER Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5829 Location: Memfrica Posts: 1,851	DEFINETLY #3 if it is EFI. If not, then #1 & buy goodies for it. __________________ DO NOT FEED THE HUMANS They will not learn to take care of themselves.

08-22-2001, 11:26 AM	#18 (permalink)
RE:Todd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 422 Location: Roswell NM Posts: 6,374	#3, #1, #5 in that order <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">. Check #7 also. __________________ Todd Steele TINBENDERS Formula Toy #006; Thanks to Deaver Spring, High Angle Driveline, Longfields, Rock Buggy Supply, PRP Seats, Marlin Crawler, Coast Motor Supply and RockStomper. [url=http://www.tinbenders.org]TinBenders.org[/url]

08-22-2001, 11:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
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08-22-2001, 01:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bjowett Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5994 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 406	I'm with most others here, the EFI makes for a much better engine. You just can't compare a carb to it. Plus you start out 16hp and 30 - 40 lb/ft of torque ahead. The lift and tahres are easy to ad... EFI is not. Brian __________________ 86 4-Runner Turbo, FJ80 SAS, FF rear 71 Landcruiser 01 Audi S4 Avant - RS4 stuff coming 93 VW Corrado Syncro

08-22-2001, 01:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
82FB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 41 Location: Ventura County, CA Posts: 3,240	I would go for #5, the IFS one. SAS it, crawl it, chevy/44044 it, 33's and go.

08-22-2001, 04:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
GfuNK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5710 Location: ALAMEDA, CA 94501 Posts: 45	I think #1 would be better to buy cheap then spend more to fix up. __________________ '95 4RUNNER ON BFG MUDDERS AND BLACK ROCKCRAWLERS

08-22-2001, 04:47 PM	#24 (permalink)
BigDaddy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1037 Location: 402 Miles From Moab... Posts: 408	1 no question.You can change over too EFI cheaper than SAS.....About the same time but less $$$$ __________________ Beauty is only a Six Pack away! [url="http://communities.msn.com/ToyotaRockcrawlin"]http://communities.msn.com/ToyotaRockcrawlin[/url]

08-22-2001, 07:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
flimmy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3101 Location: Mt. Pleasant,Pa Posts: 4,908	You forgot about #7, the 85 EFI 5spd 4runner( non sr5),all stock with 88k miles and very little rust around the rear fenders for $2000.I would choose # 1 or #7 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Frame Bender #1 should look familiar.You got some pics of it wheelin in MD. [ 08-22-2001: Message edited by: flimmy ] __________________ [url]www.trailbrightled.com[/url]

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