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Old 03-30-2006, 07:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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With all I've learned about eng. swaps.....

I had a great conversation with Jim from Inchworm gear the other day and I became inspired to do some homework..........

Chevy 60* v-6 swap into my 1974 toy 4X (or any toy project)

With what I have learned over the years about the close relationship of g and r series trannies to the Jeep AX 5 / 15 asian warner trannies , I have concluded that with a simple input gear swap and the use of a 87-88 Cherokee bellhousing (ax-5 2.5 L 4 cyl) , I can mount a Chevy 60* v6 in front of a Toy trans.

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The 60 degree Gm V-6 had a lot of issues in the first generation , but I have read good things about the 2nd gen engines. I will be compiling data here as I obtain it. Here is a start..........

Chevy 60-Degree V6

The Chevrolet 60-Degree V6 is a compact powerhouse. This innovative engine has beaten both the competition and the elements in off-road racing. It is a proven winner in sports car racing, and it has a promising future on America's oval tracks in the Midget classes. A Chevy V6/60-degree engine is the perfect power-plant for a high-tech street rod or an ultralight autocross machine. GM Performance Parts offers the basic building blocks for a high-performance V6/60-degree, including light alloy engine cases, high-compression pistons, and high-volume pumps.
Chevrolet's 60-degree V6 has been produced in two distinct versions. First generation V6/60-degrees have cast iron cylinder heads with inline valves; second generation engines have aluminum cylinder heads with splayed valves. First generation engines V6/60-degrees are produced for front-wheel-drive and rear-wheel-drive vehicles exclusively. Parts are interchangeable between the two versions except as noted in the part descriptions below.
Chevy V6/60-degree engines are available with 2.8-liter (173 cubic inch) and 3.1-liter (189ci) and 3.4-liter (207ci) displacements. 1985 and later V6/60-degree blocks have larger main bearings than pre-l985 engines; these late-model blocks are recommended for high-performance and competition applications. All Chevy V6/60-degree engines use metric fasteners exclusively.


Chronology (SP?)
First Generation

1980

Introduction of the 2.8 liter (173ci) V-6 as a transverse mount in the Chevrolet Citation
60 deg angle between cylinder banks for packaging efficiency
Designed for future displacement increases
Short-stroke design (89mm bore, 76mm bore)
Firing order 1-2-3-4-5-6
Cast-iron "small-valve" heads (1.60in intake, 1.30in exhaust)
Flat-top aluminum pistons
Fuel pump pushrod 12mm in diameter
High-Energy Ignition (HEI) system
Staged 2-barrel carburetor (Varajet II)
Externally balanced cast crankshaft
1981

Water pump removal does not upset timing cover seal
Guide-mounted seal added to intake valve guide
Early Fuel Evaporation (EFE) grid added underneath carburetor
High-output version introduced, featuring:
Horsepower increase to 135 net hp
Piston height increased to 0.020in
Compression increased to 9:1
Intake and exhaust valve diameters increased by 0.120in
Cross-drilled crankshaft main journals
1982

Basically carried over from 1981
First use in rear-wheel-drive vehicles (S-10 and Camaro)
Fuel pump pushrod diameter increased from 12mm to 16mm for all engines
Rope-type rear main seal replaced by two-piece polyacrylate seal
Front-mounted thermostat housing (rear-wheel-drive vehicles only)
Engine-driven cooling fan (rear-wheel-drive vehicles only)
Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve located at rear of engine (rear-wheel-drive vehicles only)
HEI distributor with separate coil (rear-wheel-drive vehicles only)
1984

Basically carried over from 1983
One-piece rear main seal (5mm wide) available for service
Four-bolt right-hand motor mount
1985

Engine introduced in "J"-cars (i.e. Cavalier, Cimmaron)
Engine used in J-cars inclined further forward than in other vehicles
"Thin" front cover, offset water pump, and 0.100in narrower timing chain set required
Multi-port fuel injection (MPFI) system introduced:
One fuel injector per cylinder; sprays fuel directly into cylinder
Cold-start fuel injector
Special throttle body
High-pressure electric fuel pump
Fuel pressure regulator
Different cylinder head gaskets used with MPFI engines
Pistons used with MPFI engines 0.020in taller
Larger crankshaft main bearing journals introduced mid-year
One-piece rear main seal (10mm wide) introduce mid-year
O-ring used to seal main oil passage between oil pump and block
Lower friction oil control rings
Distributor downsized
Intake plenum lower on J-cars to clear hood
Serpentine accessory drive blet on some models
Regular engine had 110 HP
High Output engine had 135-140 HP
8.9:1 compression
Bigger valves
Higher lift cam
Second Generation

1987

Generation II engine introduced in front-wheel-drive vehicles
Cylinder heads redesigned and cast in aluminum
Cylinder heads require dished pistons and thicker head gaskets with unique cooling holes
Cast-aluminum rocker arm covers
Splayed intake and exhaust valves
Guide-mounted seals used on both intake and exhaust valve guides
Valve stem seal, oil shedder, and shield discontinued
Vlve lash adjustment procedure changed
Intake plenum reshaped for efficiency
Aluminum front cover and water pump housing
Direct Ignition System (DIS) replaces distributor (front-wheel-drive vehicles only), fires two spark plugs simultaneously
Oil pump driven by oil pump drive
Internally balance crankshaft incorporates "reluctor" for DIS operation; ignition timing nonadjustable
Compression ratio increased to 8.9:1
Lower friction piston compression rings
Model 700 TBI system introduced
Serpentine accessory drive belt
Internally balanced crankshaft used in engines fitted to rear-wheel-drive vehicles only
Cast with DIS reluctor, but DIS igniton not used
One-piece oil pan gasket
Later models have Crankshaft Position Sensor
Fieros did not use this sensor
1988

Lathe-turned pistons
Piston weight reduce from 600gm to 540gm, and then finally to 510gm
Internally balance crankshafts (rear-wheel-drive vehicles only)
Multec fuel injectors replace earlier pintle-style injectors
Speed density engine control system replaces mass air flow (MAF) sensor in J-cars
1990

Displacement increased from 2.8-liter to 3.1-liter
Stroke increased 8mm
Uses dished pistons
4mm shorter than 1989 model engines
Features low-tension piston rings
Single-size pistons, main bearings, and rod bearings, eliminating need for different sizes of parts during service
Fuel pump eccentric on camshaft eliminated
Aluminum heads used on some models
1993

3.4-liter version introduced in Camaro and Firebird
Bore increased 3.03mm
SFI system introduced
DIS enhanced; uses additional sensor at front of block
Cylinder block upgraded to handle additional displacement





Toy HP / TQ #'s
20R, 2.2L, 90 HP@4800, 122 Ft-Lbs@2400
22R, 2.4L, 96 HP@4800, 129 Ft-Lbs@2800
22RE, 2.4L, 112 HP@4600, 142 Ft-Lbs@3400
22RTE, 2.4L, 135 HP@4800, 173 Ft-Lbs@2800, 6psi
20R/22R Hybrid, Estimated 135-155 HP depending on build
2RZFE, 2.4L, 142 HP@5000, 160 Ft-Lbs@4000
3RZFE, 2.7L, 150 HP@4800, 177 Ft-Lbs@4000
3VZ-E, 3.0L, 150 HP@4800, 180 Ft-Lbs@3400
5VZ-FE,3.4L, 190 HP@4800, 220 Ft-Lbs@3600
5M-GE, 2.7L, 143 HP@5200, 154 Ft-Lbs@4400
7M-GE, 3.0L, 199 HP@6000, 188 Ft-Lbs@3600
7M-GTE,3.0L, 232 HP@5600, 254 Ft-Lbs@3200, 5psi


Gm V-6 #'s
1993(Gen III) 2.8 TBI 125HP 150ft/lbs Tq
1992 Camaro 3.1 MPFi 160HP 180Ft./Lbs Tq
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All I can say is the 82 S-15 pickup with a 2.8 liter V-6 I owned briefly was the biggest POS I ever owned. I had problems with that POS from the harmonic balancer (came loose) to the tail shaft on the tranny (came loose). Most of the problems were with the engine. It also had no power what so ever, I got beat by a Honda Civic in a drag race It was so bad that when I started looking for a tow rig I did not even look at a GM product. I was a diehard Chevy man for many years!!!!
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Toy HP / TQ #'s
20R, 2.2L, 90 HP@4800, 122 Ft-Lbs@2400
22R, 2.4L, 96 HP@4800, 129 Ft-Lbs@2800
22RE, 2.4L, 112 HP@4600, 142 Ft-Lbs@3400
22RTE, 2.4L, 135 HP@4800, 173 Ft-Lbs@2800, 6psi
20R/22R Hybrid, Estimated 135-155 HP depending on build
2RZFE, 2.4L, 142 HP@5000, 160 Ft-Lbs@4000
3RZFE, 2.7L, 150 HP@4800, 177 Ft-Lbs@4000
3VZ-E, 3.0L, 150 HP@4800, 180 Ft-Lbs@3400
5VZ-FE,3.4L, 190 HP@4800, 220 Ft-Lbs@3600
5M-GE, 2.7L, 143 HP@5200, 154 Ft-Lbs@4400
7M-GE, 3.0L, 199 HP@6000, 188 Ft-Lbs@3600
7M-GTE,3.0L, 232 HP@5600, 254 Ft-Lbs@3200, 5psi


Gm V-6 #'s
1993(Gen III) 2.8 TBI 125HP 150ft/lbs Tq
doesnt this say it all right here, whats the point for 8 more ft-lbs.? A stock turbo toyota makes more power than a 2.8. My GF had one in a camaro when she was in high school. never really had problems but it was a TURD.
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From my experience in the automotive field the 2.8 was in my opinion not a very solid engine. Oil leaks all the time, Lower ends failing prematurely, and when ran hard like you can a toy engine they would fail. Just my 2cents.
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Dude, I can't think of ANYONE who likes the 60* V6 (any version). Easier to just stick with the 22R(X) and beef it up. Not sure if anyone sells an adapter/bell housing for this so you might be stuck with a GM tranny. Did they use 700R's for the 2.8? Don't do it..... (my $0.00000002).
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A buddy of mine has the Gen III version of the 60 Degree eng. that flys

200HP , that is what I am doing the research for ....gen III SEFI 3.4 (circa 1993)

Also , Keep in mind , I have the stock 1974 18r-c 2.0L engine right now
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Are the supercharged 3.8's in this family?? Also, are the bolt patterns the same for 4.3 and the 60* bellhousings? IE, could a Jeep bellhousing be a poor mans adapter on a 4.3 swap??
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we have a 2.8 S10 at the shop here and the motor is very skinny and short so it wouldn't be hard to stuff it into practically anything. That still doesn't make it right. Unless you go to a later 3.1 or something to get decent power out of it, don't bother. Just go with a 4.3 or something else. The 700r4 was used behind the 2.8 but its a 60 degree bolt pattern, completely different from any V-8 or 4.3 tranny.
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I've been the unfortunate owner of a few 2.8s . . . I HATE them. The only one that didn't break down on me was in a S10 Blazer and it was an absolute slug to drive. I sure hope the later models are worthwhile cuz the early models aren't!

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My first Toy was an 82, i bought new. After adding a weber and a header, it would fly by my buddy's Blazer with the 2.8 on every hill. So I would not even look at the 2.8's.
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we have a 2.8 S10 at the shop here and the motor is very skinny and short so it wouldn't be hard to stuff it into practically anything. That still doesn't make it right. Unless you go to a later 3.1 or something to get decent power out of it, don't bother. Just go with a 4.3 or something else. The 700r4 was used behind the 2.8 but its a 60 degree bolt pattern, completely different from any V-8 or 4.3 tranny.

I would be going with a 3.1 or 3.4 for sure , still in the research phase.....
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All that time researching, and it you could have put a cam in a 22r and made more power than a stock 2.8.
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The 2.8s are pretty much crap, the 3.1s a bit better.

But, if you are going to do it, go pull a 3.4 or better, a 3.8 from a Camaro.

The 3.4s are 160 hp, the 3.8s are 200 hp, both are setup for rwd vehicles..

Also, Cadillac Shortstar V6s and Northstar V8s are the same bolt pattern, but going to be wider..
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Are the supercharged 3.8's in this family?? Also, are the bolt patterns the same for 4.3 and the 60* bellhousings? IE, could a Jeep bellhousing be a poor mans adapter on a 4.3 swap??
Nope, the 60* engine has it's own BH pattern , which is shared thru the early XJ platform AMC 151 (2.5L) 4 cylinder and the gm sourced 2.8 from 85-87.

The cool option:by using a Jeep Cj 7 2.5 AMC to t 150 BH , I can mount an SM 420 behind the Gm 60 degree V-6 and then adapt back to my twin Toy cases= Super low.
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All that time researching, and it you could have put a cam in a 22r and made more power than a stock 2.8.
READ THREAD......I do NOT have the 22R in this truck , it is a 1974 model.
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With what I have learned over the years about the close relationship of g and r series trannies to the Jeep AX 5 / 15 asian warner trannies , I have concluded that with a simple input gear swap and the use of a 87-88 Cherokee bellhousing (ax-5 2.5 L 4 cyl) , I can mount a Chevy 60* v6 in front of a Toy trans.
Interesting.... You're thinking of using the input shaft/gear from an AX-15 in a R150 then use the Jeep BH to stick everything together. I've not researched this aspect but has this actually been done? I know a boat load of Jeepers who would love to ditch the ill-favored AX-5 in favor of a R-150 but I don't know of anybody who has really tried this. Are you sure the input shaft/gears are dimensionally compatible?
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READ THREAD......I do NOT have the 22R in this truck , it is a 1974 model.
and then 1st post Chevy 60* v-6 swap into my 1974 toy 4X (or any toy project)

Sorry if I hit a sore spot. Just making a referance to time better spent.
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no offense taken , just adding another dimension to possible toy eng. swaps
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Interesting.... You're thinking of using the input shaft/gear from an AX-15 in a R150 then use the Jeep BH to stick everything together. I've not researched this aspect but has this actually been done? I know a boat load of Jeepers who would love to ditch the ill-favored AX-5 in favor of a R-150 but I don't know of anybody who has really tried this. Are you sure the input shaft/gears are dimensionally compatible?

This has been done , it is also possible to put a 4.0 L Jeep 6 in front of an R series toy trans
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the 3.1s are very bad about intake leaks, the 3.4s aren't as bad but still have problems, there is a dohc 3.4 ive never seen one with an intake leak but i havent seen that many

there is also a turbo 3.1 out of a 90-91 turbo grand prix, i worked with a guy that had a 90 that ran 14.5 with a chip an cold air intake, i had the chance to buy a spare motor he had but didnt cause i thought it would not be costy effective
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All I can say is the 82 S-15 pickup with a 2.8 liter V-6 I owned briefly was the biggest POS I ever owned. I had problems with that POS from the harmonic balancer (came loose) to the tail shaft on the tranny (came loose). Most of the problems were with the engine. It also had no power what so ever, I got beat by a Honda Civic in a drag race It was so bad that when I started looking for a tow rig I did not even look at a GM product. I was a diehard Chevy man for many years!!!!
I've talked to guys with these engines and I can't remember anyone bragging about them. I also was a diehard Chevy man for many years.... now you couldn't give me Chevy!
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Interesting.... You're thinking of using the input shaft/gear from an AX-15 in a R150 then use the Jeep BH to stick everything together. I've not researched this aspect but has this actually been done? I know a boat load of Jeepers who would love to ditch the ill-favored AX-5 in favor of a R-150 but I don't know of anybody who has really tried this. Are you sure the input shaft/gears are dimensionally compatible?
problem could occur if there is a difference in tooth count on the input gear, if it has more or less it will not mesh with the cluster, and you would have to replace the input with the matching cluster. This is something that has to be done using the 5 speed from a rx-7 and putting the parts into the old 720 nissan picku 5-speeds.
But I am pretty sure this wouldn't be the case between the 150 and the ax unit.
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I was going to say something about matching the cluster gears too. John Douglas (OZrunner) knows quite a bit about the R-series gear sets since he's done a lot of swapping around with R154/R150, etc.
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why not just go straight to the 5vz-fe? 3.4 V6, it will easily hit your target HP (190HP stock) and you wouldn't have to make yourself a 1 off frankenstein transmission to make it work. reliable, and you get to keep it all toyota.

seems to be the way to go to me.
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Might have come across a rolled Camaro 1993 , 3.4 , 5 spd.............
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