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Old 02-13-2007, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Skinny Bogger

What do you guys think about 35x10.50 Boggers? Too skinny? I think they would make a better mud tire in an underpowerd truck with a 22-RE under the hood such as a Toyota. Contact pressure would rock also, and you would not be pushing so much mud. Tell me what you think, and does anyone have any pics of these tires mounted?
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They make a great mud tire on an overpowered truck too! My buddy runs a 79 Stepside with a 460 on 35X10.50 Boggers. Cuts through the slop right down to the solid bottom but more importantly it doesn't wander all over the place like a wide tire.

Some of my wheeling buddies run the skinny LTBs (34X10.50) on their 22R powered 4Runners and they work awesome with lockers in the goo. I was going to run the skinny Boggers on my 3.0 4Runner but I got a Killer deal on the 35X16s so I went with those instead. Not enough ponies to really make them work so I'm wishing I would have got the 10.50s instead. Instead of changing the tires, I'm changing the motor for a Ford 351W!

The only drawback to those tires is cost. If you can live with the 34" LTB, it's just as good in the mud and a lot better on sidehills and it's got a much better price.


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Old 02-13-2007, 07:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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off topic but have you started your 351w swap yet, i put mine in and am have a hell of a time with my steering because of the duel sump.... if you have a choice i would go with 302..... my builds on here
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am a skinny tire lover. Looking to run 33 9.50s and wishing that someone made a 8.50 in a bias.

Go skinny. The only place a wide tire should be off-road is on sand or deep mud IF you got a powerfull skinny pedel.

Flame away you wide tire bastards
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Wide vs Skinny

Well I will not flame you as I started this thread, but there is a place for "wider" tires also. However coma: I think there is a wide tire fad that has been going on for about three decades now that while not as stupid as 22" dubbs can get a little silly. I mean think of how friggin wide a 35x16" Bogger is..........unless you have big axles and tons of power it is usless. There is no contact pressure and you are pushing everything if you can't get on top of it. Now I will say that there is a market for such a tire, but I think many people go too wide. Every truck is different, as are people needs but I think a good ratio is one that is associated with a 35x12.50 or about a 2.8:1 height to width ratio. This give one contact pressure plus the benefit of the added flotation that is associated with wider tires. However I think under certain circumstances skinny's can be better, as stated above when underpowered and wanting to cut though mud.
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Thats why i got my Q-78 TSL's they cut through slop well, especially with my 3.slow and stock 4.10's. I kept up with a yukon on 38.5x15 boggers on x12 rims. IMO for mudding a slightly wider tire is a little better on a heavier rig, but i tend to stay narrow.
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I've always wanted to try those 38x11 Boggers! Go for that!
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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shit, where were you skinny tire ppl for this argument

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Old 02-14-2007, 10:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well now, that was an exciting discussion.

slickrok, I think overall we agree about tires. Oh and yes there is a hell of a market for wide tires, they are what we are told we need by just about every write-up. Finding a good selection of tall narrow tires is not easy.

Also that other thread brings up good points. In the end we all have our own feelings on the topic. Mine are simple, maybe too much so. Wide is good on sand and real loose stuff. Wide is good in the mud if you have big power. Wide is not good on the snow like some seem to think. I like narrow for everything else.

More important than anything is tire pressure. I run my tires at about 20psi on the trail. Lower once I get beadlocks. Narrow is good for putting the pressure on the terrain and air them down to get to the real traction.

Can not tell you how many times I have simply driven through a section of trail that a modified rig had all kinds of issues on. they are running street pressure and just do not want to listen. Hell I drive a stock Toyota Van and I just out wheeled a lifted Jeep with a locker, sometimes they look sad...

So my vote is tall and narrow and watch the tire pressure. Dig down to the hard stuff under the mud and wrap that tire around the rocks.

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know a few guys that ran the 34x9.50 tsl and liked it. skinny by todays standards, but it was one of the few that size that the stock drivetrain could spin and keep the mud cleaned out.
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Thats why i got my Q-78 TSL's they cut through slop well, especially with my 3.slow and stock 4.10's. I kept up with a yukon on 38.5x15 boggers on x12 rims. IMO for mudding a slightly wider tire is a little better on a heavier rig, but i tend to stay narrow.

Umm...that's not saying much!
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34x1.50 LTBs and I'm doing anything that I've got the clearance for. Mud, rocks, sand, snow, water, nothing slows me down.

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34x1.50 LTBs and I'm doing anything that I've got the clearance for. Mud, rocks, sand, snow, water, nothing slows me down.

I'm surprised you can even leave the garage on 34x1.5 tires
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34x1.50 LTBs and I'm doing anything that I've got the clearance for. Mud, rocks, sand, snow, water, nothing slows me down.

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34x1.50 LTBs and I'm doing anything that I've got the clearance for. Mud, rocks, sand, snow, water, nothing slows me down.


Well you did it. Found a tire that is even to narrow for me.
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I loved my Q78 TSL's, and i absolutely adore my 38.5x11 boggers. The only downside to the 35x10.5's is that they do run a bit short, but they do fit well on very low lift rigs. Not that i run alot of lift for my skinny 38.5's, i only have saggy 3" springs and a 1" body lift. I run 4.10 gears in the axles with a marlin dual ultimate crawler setup and even with a mostly stock, 275K mile 22re i have no problems spinning them when i have to.
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I loved my Q78 TSL's, and i absolutely adore my 38.5x11 boggers. The only downside to the 35x10.5's is that they do run a bit short, but they do fit well on very low lift rigs. Not that i run alot of lift for my skinny 38.5's, i only have saggy 3" springs and a 1" body lift. I run 4.10 gears in the axles with a marlin dual ultimate crawler setup and even with a mostly stock, 275K mile 22re i have no problems spinning them when i have to.
i would LOVE to see some pics of your rig on these tires!
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Umm...that's not saying much!
I was giving him credit for heavy as the kon was but my lil toyota walked the dog on the fullsizes at our last mudding trip. even deep ass ruts the q-78s kept me going with clean lugs all the time. slim tires do well in mud on light trucks. at least in South Louisiana
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if you get these boggers then say good bye to snow wheeling if you do any of it, i personally like the wider tires but those tires will do good in the mud
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Lot a guys around here run the 38.5/11.50's and they work great. They will litteraly dig untill you move, are up to your axles float point or break something.
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I love my 34-950s. My 4 popper can spin them with no issues. Manual steering gear and its as easy to turn as when I had 31s on. They barely hit my springs and they work well with stock wheels.

The downsides are that in that real bottomless mud, and deep snow you get hung right now, they roll under severely when sidehilling, and bead retention problems arise (narrow wheels arent terribly available)
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i wanna see a pic of the q78s on a rig
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i wanna see a pic of the q78s on a rig
Q-78-15 TSL on 15x8's
Im satisfied with mud performance.

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