Front axle "Gettin wider" - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Pat · 02-04-2008, 11:17 AM

Give me your bent housings I want them..

Well after the Trail gear knuckle thread and the link to IH8MUD with the guy who was giving the LC axles a few inches extra to make the Spring overs nicer I decided to make a wider front end.. I just got it started and have a few pics to put up, I will put up more as I go.. I am going to make it 6 inches wider and am doing it on the short side.. I will be rotateing the knuckles alittle bit also, I was going to rotate them more but just picked up a HP elocker so no need for that now.. My goal is to make a wider, STRONGER, and STRAIGHT toyota mini front housing, I like the thought of a diamond but don't want to shell out the money for one.. I don't wheel hard enough to justify a 60 front.. I have debated the 44 since I have built and narrowed a few in the past, But hell I figure Lets try a toyota housing.. Its just sheet metal right..haha

SeaBass44 · 02-04-2008, 11:22 AM

1st
in thx for chance

Azrckcrawler · 02-04-2008, 11:25 AM

Nice lathe, I can't believe you got the whole axle housing up there

I had a hard enough time spining just the knuckles balls way back when we built a few re-tubed front ends.

Pat · 02-04-2008, 11:29 AM

that lathe is my buddys, Nice having friends

He will be a big help on this thing for sure.. That lathe is huge too.. In the pic you can't see the rest of the bed but it is alot longer.. And you could turn the housing with the third in it no problem if you wanted too and went slow enough

Pat · 02-04-2008, 11:40 AM

heres the third I will be using

MT4Runner · 02-04-2008, 12:18 PM

Subscribed!

Love where you're going with this. Take plenty of pictures. You're writing a chapter for the bible!

Pat · 02-04-2008, 12:27 PM

here is a Pic of the doner tube for the extra width 3.25" .5" wall DOM, 10 inches worth

My ass hurt after I paid for it but oh well

coondogger · 02-04-2008, 12:35 PM

Hells yes! Curious as to how this will end up. Toyota Baby!

Pat · 02-04-2008, 12:38 PM

here is a pic of how my runner sits now width wise with crappy wheel spacers and 2" backspaced wheels.. Adding the 6 inches(total of 61.5") should be perfect with the width of the taco rear at 60".. ..

locktup · 02-04-2008, 01:52 PM

Why not build a housing yourself?

Jason

Pat · 02-04-2008, 01:57 PM

I thought of that, But I will try this first, I think I can make one from a stock housing strong and straight.. And most of all cheap.. With much less time in building it too.. After I see how this one turns out maybe I will move to bigger and better later.. I see the center section being kinda tuff to build and have it correct for myself at least, cudos to the guys who can build the center.. I want to learn..

Pat · 02-04-2008, 02:11 PM

I called Brian at Front range, He said no problem on a 27 spline custom length axle.. I am going to try the cheap route first to see if the housing holds up and is what I want.. If so then it will be 30 Spline Longs.. Hell, that way I will have a spare anyways not that I could break a longfeild inner anyways

SeaBass44 · 02-04-2008, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locktup

Why not build a housing yourself?

Jason

You make it sound easy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

I caled Brian at Front range, He said no problem on a 27 spline custom length axle..

Brain "Da Man"

SeaBass44 · 02-04-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

that lathe is my buddys, Nice having friends

He will be a big help on this thing for sure.. That lathe is huge too.. In the pic you can't see the rest of the bed but it is alot longer.. And you could turn the housing with the third in it no problem if you wanted too and went slow enough

LOL, he could chuck up my 12" x 36" LATHE in that one

porterwagner · 02-04-2008, 05:32 PM

this thing should be pretty sweet when you're all done, it'll definitely be a head scratcher for a lot of people when they see that!! They'll be like, what front axle is that from!?!

Booger Weldz · 02-04-2008, 05:36 PM

subscribed, glad you kept your 4runner pat, its nice!

Pat · 02-04-2008, 07:06 PM

yea, it will be NEAT man..

Hereare a couple more pics of the housing and knuckle balls

Pat · 02-04-2008, 07:37 PM

here is a shitty drawing of what the I am doing, I hope someone can understand the drawing..

SeaBass44 · 02-04-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

here is a shitty drawing of what the I am doing, I hope someone can understand the drawing..

Pat · 02-04-2008, 07:49 PM

BISH

locktup · 02-04-2008, 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=SeaBass44;7833060]You make it sound easy

Easy, no. But worth the time.

Good shit Pat looking forward to seeing the out come.

Jason

billybob13 · 02-04-2008, 09:31 PM

i have been thinking about this for a week now, leave long side alone, slide perch over 3", 6" spacer on short side, buy 1 shaft, 2 perches, and 1 bf spacer! notice how most birf failures are short side? now it has more room for twist. i'm glad someone else is doing this so i can see the results. i may wait a few months on mine as i just put 3/8" ball gussets on mine before i saw the cruiser thread.

should deffinatly gusset the section of tube added.

Pat · 02-04-2008, 09:43 PM

gusset goes without saying, With that much past where the DOM meets the sheet metal housing, Been trying to think of the best and cleanest way to do it

Pat · 02-04-2008, 09:45 PM

been looking at old posts to get ideas

KYOTA · 02-05-2008, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locktup

Why not build a housing yourself?

Jason

cant be done Gomer!!

02-04-2008, 11:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	Front axle "Gettin wider" Give me your bent housings I want them.. Well after the Trail gear knuckle thread and the link to IH8MUD with the guy who was giving the LC axles a few inches extra to make the Spring overs nicer I decided to make a wider front end.. I just got it started and have a few pics to put up, I will put up more as I go.. I am going to make it 6 inches wider and am doing it on the short side.. I will be rotateing the knuckles alittle bit also, I was going to rotate them more but just picked up a HP elocker so no need for that now.. My goal is to make a wider, STRONGER, and STRAIGHT toyota mini front housing, I like the thought of a diamond but don't want to shell out the money for one.. I don't wheel hard enough to justify a 60 front.. I have debated the 44 since I have built and narrowed a few in the past, But hell I figure Lets try a toyota housing.. Its just sheet metal right..haha Attached Images __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-06-2008 at 07:41 PM.

02-04-2008, 11:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
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02-04-2008, 11:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
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02-04-2008, 11:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	that lathe is my buddys, Nice having friends He will be a big help on this thing for sure.. That lathe is huge too.. In the pic you can't see the rest of the bed but it is alot longer.. And you could turn the housing with the third in it no problem if you wanted too and went slow enough __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-04-2008 at 11:29 AM.

02-04-2008, 11:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	heres the third I will be using Attached Images __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . .

02-04-2008, 12:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
MT4Runner IDIot! Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44480 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 16,646	Subscribed! Love where you're going with this. Take plenty of pictures. You're writing a chapter for the bible! __________________ Motive Gear Land Use Team http://www.tenfactory.com http://www.motivegear.com http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com http://www.mastercraftsafety.com FToy 086 - UHaul Toterhome

02-04-2008, 12:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	here is a Pic of the doner tube for the extra width 3.25" .5" wall DOM, 10 inches worth My ass hurt after I paid for it but oh well Attached Images __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-04-2008 at 12:28 PM.

02-04-2008, 12:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
coondogger Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83479 Location: J'Africaville Posts: 73	Hells yes! Curious as to how this will end up. Toyota Baby!

02-04-2008, 12:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	here is a pic of how my runner sits now width wise with crappy wheel spacers and 2" backspaced wheels.. Adding the 6 inches(total of 61.5") should be perfect with the width of the taco rear at 60".. .. Attached Images __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . .

02-04-2008, 01:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
locktup Clothing Optional Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31499 Location: Wilton Posts: 304	Why not build a housing yourself? Jason __________________ Thanks for the support. Yukon Gear & Axle Placer Waterworks for all your tube, aluminum and powder coating needs. Marlin Crawler

02-04-2008, 01:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	I thought of that, But I will try this first, I think I can make one from a stock housing strong and straight.. And most of all cheap.. With much less time in building it too.. After I see how this one turns out maybe I will move to bigger and better later.. I see the center section being kinda tuff to build and have it correct for myself at least, cudos to the guys who can build the center.. I want to learn.. __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-04-2008 at 01:59 PM.

02-04-2008, 02:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	I called Brian at Front range, He said no problem on a 27 spline custom length axle.. I am going to try the cheap route first to see if the housing holds up and is what I want.. If so then it will be 30 Spline Longs.. Hell, that way I will have a spare anyways not that I could break a longfeild inner anyways __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-06-2008 at 09:51 PM.

02-04-2008, 05:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
porterwagner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17544 Location: PARADISE norcal Posts: 1,187	this thing should be pretty sweet when you're all done, it'll definitely be a head scratcher for a lot of people when they see that!! They'll be like, what front axle is that from!?! __________________ 1990 Toyota EX cab 22RE Dana 44 Front Alloys, T-100 Detroit rear. Duals 4.7s. 5.29s 5.38s This combo works Friends Of the High Lakes Cal4wheel BRC Tread Lightly

02-04-2008, 05:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
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02-04-2008, 07:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	yea, it will be NEAT man.. Hereare a couple more pics of the housing and knuckle balls Attached Images __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . .

02-04-2008, 07:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	here is a shitty drawing of what the I am doing, I hope someone can understand the drawing.. Attached Images __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . .

02-04-2008, 07:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	BISH __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-04-2008 at 07:50 PM.

02-04-2008, 08:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
locktup Clothing Optional Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31499 Location: Wilton Posts: 304	[QUOTE=SeaBass44;7833060]You make it sound easy Easy, no. But worth the time. Good shit Pat looking forward to seeing the out come. Jason __________________ Thanks for the support. Yukon Gear & Axle Placer Waterworks for all your tube, aluminum and powder coating needs. Marlin Crawler

02-04-2008, 09:31 PM	#22 (permalink)
billybob13 we can go that way Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85972 Location: Roswell NM Posts: 8,371	i have been thinking about this for a week now, leave long side alone, slide perch over 3", 6" spacer on short side, buy 1 shaft, 2 perches, and 1 bf spacer! notice how most birf failures are short side? now it has more room for twist. i'm glad someone else is doing this so i can see the results. i may wait a few months on mine as i just put 3/8" ball gussets on mine before i saw the cruiser thread. should deffinatly gusset the section of tube added. __________________ FJ80 HIGH STEER KITS /forum/axles-tires-wheels/997804-fj80-high-steer-way-you-need.html Authorized ruffstuff dealer- pm me for pirate discount and free shipping! pm me for affordable built toyota 3rd members or parts! ADS racing shocks- i can save you money on those too! Last edited by billybob13; 02-04-2008 at 09:31 PM.

02-04-2008, 09:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	gusset goes without saying, With that much past where the DOM meets the sheet metal housing, Been trying to think of the best and cleanest way to do it __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . . Last edited by Pat; 02-04-2008 at 09:43 PM.

02-04-2008, 09:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
Pat Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 120 Location: Wild Wild West Posts: 7,968	been looking at old posts to get ideas __________________ . . . .Try out a AppleSeed... http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ . . . .

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