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Mr Stubs · 06-28-2012, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatmonkey

Any concerns for either your crossmember bushings or T-case housing?

Maybe I missed it, but what are you using for your frame side crossmember bushings?

Yep, Johnny Joint

Steel sleeved bushing... forgot the one but it came from Poly Performance and fits inside a 1.75 DOM tube

Mr Stubs · 07-15-2012, 07:45 PM

Broke up at TSF in the Crushers this weekend.

This netted me three wheel drive. I felt like a fancy man with a ARB in the rear who wasnt smart enough to engage it.

You can check out this thread to get the whole story and the tech behind this problem.

/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/1078757-usa-alloy-rear-axle-length-broke-carrier.html

drewp · 07-15-2012, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Stubs

I felt like a fancy man with a ARB in the rear who wasnt smart enough to engage it.

so you felt like a TJ owner

any wheeling pics fromn the crushers

thanx for linking those other threads on rear inner axle length, thats some good info i never knew, and probably never wouldve questioned

Mr Stubs · 07-29-2012, 05:05 PM

Went to HooDoo this weekend.

Few pics/vids of the trip

Hornyrednecks new rig

HooDoo 7-27-11 - YouTube

HooDoo 7-27-12 - YouTube

HooDoo 7-27-11 - YouTube

HooDoo 7-27-12 - YouTube

RANGERROD · 07-31-2012, 09:49 PM

What ever your up too it ought to be good.

/forum/ford/1081928-help-ford-parts-identification.html

Mr Stubs · 09-10-2012, 09:16 PM

So I have been burning fuel this summer.... check out the PNW region section for run pics if interested (most have been documented)

Broke my hydro assist clamp and band aid fixed it multiple times. After tearing it completely off the steering rod I welded it on solid this time.

Also seen this....

Now I either have front axle wrap to beat the band or I hooked the front axle on a big rock in a reverse maneuver. Either way I need to keep a close eye on this. I plan on hitting the bare steel spots on the drive line and on the frame with a marker or paint to see if it happens again.

Maybe I should stop playing "follow the leader" with my friends in their buggies?

LRC · 09-11-2012, 02:31 AM

when i first got my rig the po had some weird off brand wicked tall springs on it and the front d shaft had a stupid steep angle and hit in all same places as shown on yours but had rubbed soooo much it went through and contacted the pinion flange surface.

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yours didnt seem to hit all that bad, but some slight shaving with a dremel tool may solve it or a anti wrap on the front (if you don't have it already i don't recall) it is caused by excess droop and or axle wrap tho like you said. most likely a combo of both.
im sure you already know this but i like to think i can help people sometimes.

ha.

jroach3210 · 09-11-2012, 03:50 AM

Whats the deal with the washers on the case cross member? What thickness wall did you use for the square tubing?

Mr Stubs · 09-11-2012, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jroach3210

Whats the deal with the washers on the case cross member? What thickness wall did you use for the square tubing?

They are there to allow wiggle room for the T case once it is removed. Very hard to pull the splined cases apart when you have a mount that is horizontal instead of vertical.

I don't remember on the steel size. I may have mentioned it earlier in the thread when I built it.

Wilson · 09-11-2012, 08:19 AM

Do you run limit straps?

Mr Stubs · 09-11-2012, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson

Do you run limit straps?

No, but am considering them now if this problem persists.

Mr Stubs · 09-16-2012, 08:20 PM

Back from another run at Swartz... check out more pics and vid here if interested..

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...3#post14799213

These leafs are really getting on my nerves... I have been running my bent rear pack on the drive side but now I put my pass side rear through the wringer....

As for the front... my "check it to see if it happens again" marks show that I have axle wrap enough to put the shackle into the frame and bind the front joint in the driveline.....

Wilson · 09-16-2012, 08:30 PM

Why are you assuming wrap? Scratch marks on the frame read articulation/ bushing issues to me. Ujoints read similar (need limit straps). I ran straps to save my leafs. Overwork them and bad stuff can/ will happen. Most that I see running straps with leafs do so to save the shock, I will also argue that is the wrong approach. As for your rears.... Probably time to link

Mr Stubs · 09-16-2012, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson

Why are you assuming wrap? Scratch marks on the frame read articulation/ bushing issues to me. Ujoints read similar (need limit straps). I ran straps to save my leafs. Overwork them and bad stuff can/ will happen. Most that I see running straps with leafs do so to save the shock, I will also argue that is the wrong approach. As for your rears.... Probably time to link

PM sent....

Mr Stubs · 11-10-2012, 04:21 PM

Well progress has been nil. No motivation, low funds, blah, blah, blah......

But I ran into another problem altogether....

4 39" red label Krawlers showed up in the shop........

85dhor · 11-10-2012, 04:26 PM

haha

tanzuki · 11-10-2012, 05:18 PM

I know there is no video with audio but I swear I can hear those axles screaming bloody murder in the background. Also some laughing more than likely from the HP60. ;-)

crash · 11-10-2012, 05:50 PM

Sticky's

papacasey · 11-10-2012, 06:12 PM

Built tons are a must if you are going to run those. They laugh at toy axles and spit out little metal pieces.

papacasey · 11-10-2012, 06:13 PM

Do it!

ocdropzone · 11-10-2012, 07:13 PM

Bummer...feel like donating your old tires to a poor 1st Gen guy?

Birdman69 · 11-10-2012, 08:39 PM

nice build

Chilkat · 11-10-2012, 08:48 PM

All that traction might be unsafe with bent leaf's. I'll hold on to them for a while, my rigs not running yet, don't worry

kiyul4130 · 11-11-2012, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Stubs

Your bushings blown? Looks like your shackle hit and rubbed hard against the frame? did you check the inside of that shackle for wear? I know my old stuff was pretty bad at times and moved all OVER the place. forward and back, side to side....you name it.....it happened but still held up fine. (not saying that its ok one bit). It was me being lazy on my behalf 100%.

Mr Stubs · 11-11-2012, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiyul4130

Your bushings blown? Looks like your shackle hit and rubbed hard against the frame?

No, the bushings are good.

My front axle is walking so far forward that it is doing that to the frame with the shackle and binding my front drive line.

07-15-2012, 07:45 PM	#702 (permalink)
Mr Stubs Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102813 Location: PNW, land of liquid sunshine Posts: 2,894	Broke up at TSF in the Crushers this weekend. This netted me three wheel drive. I felt like a fancy man with a ARB in the rear who wasnt smart enough to engage it. You can check out this thread to get the whole story and the tech behind this problem. /forum/toyota-truck-4runner/1078757-usa-alloy-rear-axle-length-broke-carrier.html __________________ My friends call me "The butcher" Because I didnt know until now how important this really is..... Outstanding businesses (going above and beyond) that I have dealt with to date: Marlin Crawler Hellfire Fabworks Daves Offroad gearinstalls.com (Zuk) Local 125

07-29-2012, 05:05 PM	#704 (permalink)
Mr Stubs Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102813 Location: PNW, land of liquid sunshine Posts: 2,894	Went to HooDoo this weekend. Few pics/vids of the trip Hornyrednecks new rig HooDoo 7-27-11 - YouTube HooDoo 7-27-12 - YouTube HooDoo 7-27-11 - YouTube HooDoo 7-27-12 - YouTube __________________ My friends call me "The butcher" Because I didnt know until now how important this really is..... Outstanding businesses (going above and beyond) that I have dealt with to date: Marlin Crawler Hellfire Fabworks Daves Offroad gearinstalls.com (Zuk) Local 125

09-10-2012, 09:16 PM	#706 (permalink)
Mr Stubs Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102813 Location: PNW, land of liquid sunshine Posts: 2,894	So I have been burning fuel this summer.... check out the PNW region section for run pics if interested (most have been documented) Broke my hydro assist clamp and band aid fixed it multiple times. After tearing it completely off the steering rod I welded it on solid this time. Also seen this.... Now I either have front axle wrap to beat the band or I hooked the front axle on a big rock in a reverse maneuver. Either way I need to keep a close eye on this. I plan on hitting the bare steel spots on the drive line and on the frame with a marker or paint to see if it happens again. Maybe I should stop playing "follow the leader" with my friends in their buggies? __________________ My friends call me "The butcher" Because I didnt know until now how important this really is..... Outstanding businesses (going above and beyond) that I have dealt with to date: Marlin Crawler Hellfire Fabworks Daves Offroad gearinstalls.com (Zuk) Local 125

09-11-2012, 02:31 AM	#707 (permalink)
LRC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Member # 203358 Location: Oregon Posts: 592	when i first got my rig the po had some weird off brand wicked tall springs on it and the front d shaft had a stupid steep angle and hit in all same places as shown on yours but had rubbed soooo much it went through and contacted the pinion flange surface. . yours didnt seem to hit all that bad, but some slight shaving with a dremel tool may solve it or a anti wrap on the front (if you don't have it already i don't recall) it is caused by excess droop and or axle wrap tho like you said. most likely a combo of both. im sure you already know this but i like to think i can help people sometimes. ha. Last edited by LRC; 09-11-2012 at 02:32 AM.

09-11-2012, 03:50 AM	#708 (permalink)
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09-16-2012, 08:20 PM	#712 (permalink)
Mr Stubs Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102813 Location: PNW, land of liquid sunshine Posts: 2,894	Back from another run at Swartz... check out more pics and vid here if interested.. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...3#post14799213 These leafs are really getting on my nerves... I have been running my bent rear pack on the drive side but now I put my pass side rear through the wringer.... As for the front... my "check it to see if it happens again" marks show that I have axle wrap enough to put the shackle into the frame and bind the front joint in the driveline..... __________________ My friends call me "The butcher" Because I didnt know until now how important this really is..... Outstanding businesses (going above and beyond) that I have dealt with to date: Marlin Crawler Hellfire Fabworks Daves Offroad gearinstalls.com (Zuk) Local 125

09-16-2012, 08:30 PM	#713 (permalink)
Wilson Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7233 Location: Paradise, CA Posts: 17,161	Why are you assuming wrap? Scratch marks on the frame read articulation/ bushing issues to me. Ujoints read similar (need limit straps). I ran straps to save my leafs. Overwork them and bad stuff can/ will happen. Most that I see running straps with leafs do so to save the shock, I will also argue that is the wrong approach. As for your rears.... Probably time to link __________________ [COLOR=Red][SIZE=4]ECV 7-11[/SIZE][/COLOR] Serving up a Tsunami of Swagger

11-10-2012, 04:21 PM	#715 (permalink)
Mr Stubs Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102813 Location: PNW, land of liquid sunshine Posts: 2,894	Well progress has been nil. No motivation, low funds, blah, blah, blah...... But I ran into another problem altogether.... 4 39" red label Krawlers showed up in the shop........ __________________ My friends call me "The butcher" Because I didnt know until now how important this really is..... Outstanding businesses (going above and beyond) that I have dealt with to date: Marlin Crawler Hellfire Fabworks Daves Offroad gearinstalls.com (Zuk) Local 125

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11-10-2012, 05:18 PM	#717 (permalink)
tanzuki Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15771 Location: Salem OR Posts: 788	I know there is no video with audio but I swear I can hear those axles screaming bloody murder in the background. Also some laughing more than likely from the HP60. ;-) __________________ YO YO HA!!!

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papacasey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55254 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 396	Built tons are a must if you are going to run those. They laugh at toy axles and spit out little metal pieces. __________________ 85 Runner with some stuff. Last edited by papacasey; 11-10-2012 at 06:12 PM.

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papacasey Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55254 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 396	Do it! __________________ 85 Runner with some stuff.

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