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Old 05-04-2009, 11:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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anybody else buy trailgear 3inch springs

i bought a set of 3inch springs a couple of months ago Got them on my truck and was like holy crap these are short so i called tg and first they said give them time they will settle so i did a few really good trails nothing changed my front shackles were still verticle so then i called them back and they said i installed my front hanger to far forward so i sent them a few pics of my truck and one guy said nope thats flush and another guy said with the 3inch springs you have to mount the hanger back farther on the frame horn like a 1/2 to 1inch this is my 6th rig ive built and havent ran into this before so i called them back again and they said sorry nothing we can do you already ran the springs.

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Old 05-04-2009, 11:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i bought a set of 3inch springs a couple of months ago Got them on my truck and was like holy crap these are short so i called tg and first they said give them time they will settle so i did a few really good trails nothing changed my front shackels were still verticle so then i called them back and they said i installed my front hanger to far forward so i sent them a few pics of my truck and one guy said nope thats flush and another guy said with the 3inch springs you have to mount the hanger back farther on the frame horn like a 1/2 to 1inch this is my 6th rig ive built and havent ran into this before so i called them back again and they said sorry nothing we can do you already ran the springs. i dont know why i expected anything less from them i would have been better off ordering the crap directly from china were it comes from
You really need to worry more about graduating the 4th grade than shackle angles.
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You really need to worry more about graduating the 4th grade than shackle angles.
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To the Original Poster, I think you should have sent them pics to begin with. Just my opinion. Are the springs shorter than stock? What size shackle are you running?
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thanks for pionting out my spelling errors green truck and yes i did send them pics before i took my rig out i even offerd to pay the difference between the 3inch springs and the 4inch springs in trade but they said no and if i did move my front hanger back 1inch i would've had to cut more out of my fire wall so my tires didnt rub at full stuff
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have the same springs and they are WAY too tall I haven't run them yet but I hope they settle alot
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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i have 4 in TG springs on my 4 runner. i thought the same about the front also. I called them and i was told to give it time and they will settle. It took a year and a half to settle down . in hindsight really just wheel the piss out of them and it will settle faster.
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seams like every one who uses those spring makes a thread about how they suck. sooooo search
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It took awhile for mine to settle and my shackle angle was still not the best.

Mine was also with the front hanger FLUSH with the crossmember. These are also springs when trail-gear first came around so they may be slightly different.

Part of the problem is with the shackle jigs... they should be further forward and up higher in the frame IMO. Another 'problem' is the bumpstops in their kits; they don't seem to let the springs flatten as much as they should which increases the amount of time it takes for them to be broken in.

I'm not bashing TG at all - Their springs are working great for me
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to bash trail gears product just there attitude when I approached them with the problem. My truck is a 87 4runner sas kit and I also slid the frame tubes forward. A buddy of mine that has a zuk buggie said my springs look like they would fit his rig perfect in the front to bad he won't buy them from me.
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Im running TG3s as well on my 85... I am using the Sky hanger and boomerang shackles with the hanger in the stock location and the spring perches drilled 1 and 3/8" back my axle is 1 and 7/8" fwd with the .5 inch offset of the springs and I have a great shackle angle... they were tall at first but have easily dropped @ 2 inches or so after breaking in...

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All this talk about shackle angle...are they working for you? I measure and calculate my shackle angle, so I've never been disappointed. Most toyotas I see have what I consider to be a bad shackle angle and stand pretty straight up and down.
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yup i sat my truck on the ground before completely welding the hanger on it just to make sure that I had enough angle to make them ride well new and as they have broken in they ride and work even better than when i first put them on.
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My hanger is mounted flush with the front of the frame, and I cut the shackle holes about an inch forward of where TG says to put it. Then I tacked everything and set it down to make sure it was where I wanted it. After the springs settled my shackle angle turned out just about perfect for me, and it's not too tall for me either. So, I've got no problems with my 3" TG springs, and they flex well too!! Is there any way you could move your shackle forward?
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
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What about removing a leaf or two from the pack to get the pack broken in, then putting those leafs back in.
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What about removing a leaf or two from the pack to get the pack broken in, then putting those leafs back in.
If you do this just be careful and keep an eye on them while wheeling, I've heard of a guy kinking TG springs after removing leafs. I'm no expert, and I've never kinked a spring but it's just something to watch out for. Although that was on a '95 4Runner, and they are pretty heavy.
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I just picked up a new set of TG3" fronts from a buddy and plan on pulling the bottom two leaves and wheel it. Hanger mounted flush in the front and maybe move the shackle up a little bit. May mix in some stock rear springs to tweak it if need be. Want to keep it low.
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The hanger is offset 1/4" from center too. Make sure and mount it in the rearward position when using the TG 3" springs. Also, we slide the frame tube jig all the way forward when using these springs. They come out good if you do this. I have experienced the same thing with Marlin and Allpro 3" springs. (Allpro calls them 4" springs now though)
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im running tg 3" and my truck towers over 39.5 iroks and they told me to eat one. i chose the 3" to keep it low i cant imagine the 4 or 5"


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ifs frames are arched more and give more lift after sased than solid axle toyotas from the factory.

could be why so many people have problems.
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I just picked up a new set of TG3" fronts from a buddy and plan on pulling the bottom two leaves and wheel it. Hanger mounted flush in the front and maybe move the shackle up a little bit. May mix in some stock rear springs to tweak it if need be. Want to keep it low.
I pulled the bottom 2 out of my 3" tg pack and replaced the second to bottom leaf with a flat one (from front 84 springs). I also shortened the shackles 3 1/2" bolt to bolt. Clearances are tight and I'm as low as I can get with the IFS frame rails. I'll get some pics up when the suspension settles a bit more.
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ifs frames are arched more and give more lift after sased than solid axle toyotas from the factory.

could be why so many people have problems.
the frame arch doesnt cause more lift , both shackle tube (body mount) and front x member are identical as far as location. the body from your 86 fits on an 85 frame the same way.
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i'm runnin the 3" with the bottom short leaf removed. 95 with the 3.0. shackle angle is a little verticle, but not too bad. I haven't trailed it enough to get them to settle all the way, but the front hanger is flush with the front cross member. So far, I'm happy with them.
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i bought a set of 3inch springs a couple of months ago Got them on my truck and was like holy crap these are short so i called tg and first they said give them time they will settle so i did a few really good trails nothing changed my front shackles were still verticle so then i called them back and they said i installed my front hanger to far forward so i sent them a few pics of my truck and one guy said nope thats flush and another guy said with the 3inch springs you have to mount the hanger back farther on the frame horn like a 1/2 to 1inch this is my 6th rig ive built and havent ran into this before so i called them back again and they said sorry nothing we can do you already ran the springs.
go to the "english class" forum noob.
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you need to just throw a longer main leaf to get a better angle. you can have my all pro main leafs if you come get 'em. and like montezuma said, just remove a leaf or 2 to get them settled and replace as needed. don't go buying another leaf spring set brosef, save your money for important things like midget tranny porn.

maybe i'll have my shit done by the time yours flexes good and we can go break our shit.
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i bought a set of 3inch springs a couple of months ago Got them on my truck and was like holy crap these are short so i called tg and first they said give them time they will settle so i did a few really good trails nothing changed my front shackles were still verticle so then i called them back and they said i installed my front hanger to far forward so i sent them a few pics of my truck and one guy said nope thats flush and another guy said with the 3inch springs you have to mount the hanger back farther on the frame horn like a 1/2 to 1inch this is my 6th rig ive built and havent ran into this before so i called them back again and they said sorry nothing we can do you already ran the springs.
Yeah years ago I went through that shit. It wasnt on their web page or the SAS install instructions then. I was told to contact a guy there and even took pic's of the difference. Their answer was lacking as is the amount of funds I spend with them now....

I can predict the future of those leafs as well....

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