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rotccapt · 04-14-2010, 10:59 AM

hi all just to let you know up front i am doing researcher right now for my truck. i have an 86 toyota pick up two wheel drive with a 22re and a 5 speed manual trans. i was talking to a friend at work about what i wanted to do and he offered me a set of scout d44's front and rear with disk brakes all around and the spring towers for the front for $100 bucks. my question is not that this is a good deal just what are your thoughts on my plan to use these axles for my conversion. i will still need a t-case and drive shafts but i am not too worried about that right now. the plan for the truck is light wheeling running 35's at the largest

dirtchicken · 04-14-2010, 11:15 AM

Post reported. This belongs in the newbie forum.

montezuma · 04-14-2010, 12:12 PM

/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/402767-50-two-wheel-drive-four-wheel-drive-conversion.html

This is the link to my 86 2wd-4wd conversion. You will need to deal with the fact that you have dana 44's (IE: spring perch width, if the knuckles need to be rotated, pinion angle, etc.) Other than that, you need all the stuff you would need for a normal IFS conversion plus the (off the top of my head):

-Transfercase
-Transmission
-steering box (using the 2wd box is more involved)
-two driveshafts
-custom crossmember
-Exhaust down pipe from a 4x4 or early 2wd.
-4wd fenders if need be

I'm probably forgetting something, but it's all in my thread (pictures are no more so use your imagination). The 2wd frames are nice, and more resemble the solid axle stuff than the IFS frames do. Good luck.

Will.The.Thrill · 04-14-2010, 01:05 PM

sounds like he's trying to unload a can of worms on you, IIRC those axles are hard to get parts for and are different that other dana 44s.

if you want a solid axle go with a toyota axle, $0.02

Romix · 04-14-2010, 01:24 PM

Toyota axles could easily handle what you want to do with your truck.. You should look up "The Clyde Build" by FKNFALCON. He already has his front end under that 4wd swap project.

rotccapt · 04-14-2010, 02:40 PM

the guy has several scouts that he bought to build one and he offered them to me if i wanted them for that price.

also what is different on the scout 44's compared to the others that would make parts harder to find?

Will.The.Thrill · 04-14-2010, 02:46 PM

i really don't know for sure, i just heard that from some guy with a scout i met at the archery range, I've never researched it...that's probably something you should do if you plan on using scout axles

rotccapt · 04-14-2010, 03:06 PM

good point thanks for the tip

Provience · 04-14-2010, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will.The.Thrill

sounds like he's trying to unload a can of worms on you, IIRC those axles are hard to get parts for and are different that other dana 44s.

Depends on where you live, but parts can be had in fairly short order and Chevy stuff can be adapted without too much trouble.

The Scout stuff will also be sprung under, if stock, so keep that in mind too.

FKNFALON · 06-06-2010, 08:11 PM

Just did this with a 1st gen 2wd. It's an easy swap the Ida is easy to cut off reall quick and simple. The shackles are a pain to cut into the frame cause the tg jigs wouldn't work. Your going to need a tranny as well as a transfer case. Your better off finding a set of toy axles though just my two cents. If you have any questions shoot me a pm or check out my build thread.

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rotccapt Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158363 Posts: 4	86 pick up 2x4 to 4x4 research hi all just to let you know up front i am doing researcher right now for my truck. i have an 86 toyota pick up two wheel drive with a 22re and a 5 speed manual trans. i was talking to a friend at work about what i wanted to do and he offered me a set of scout d44's front and rear with disk brakes all around and the spring towers for the front for $100 bucks. my question is not that this is a good deal just what are your thoughts on my plan to use these axles for my conversion. i will still need a t-case and drive shafts but i am not too worried about that right now. the plan for the truck is light wheeling running 35's at the largest Last edited by rotccapt; 04-14-2010 at 11:00 AM.

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montezuma Rock God Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16789 Location: Seattle Wa. Posts: 2,178	/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/402767-50-two-wheel-drive-four-wheel-drive-conversion.html This is the link to my 86 2wd-4wd conversion. You will need to deal with the fact that you have dana 44's (IE: spring perch width, if the knuckles need to be rotated, pinion angle, etc.) Other than that, you need all the stuff you would need for a normal IFS conversion plus the (off the top of my head): -Transfercase -Transmission -steering box (using the 2wd box is more involved) -two driveshafts -custom crossmember -Exhaust down pipe from a 4x4 or early 2wd. -4wd fenders if need be I'm probably forgetting something, but it's all in my thread (pictures are no more so use your imagination). The 2wd frames are nice, and more resemble the solid axle stuff than the IFS frames do. Good luck. __________________ The Parts Pimp. Wanted! Solid axle steering boxes from 1979-1985 toyota pick-ups and four runners. PM me for details. Wanted! Power assist Rams and Valves from 75-77 Ford F-250's. PM me for details. $78 for Toyota front knuckle rebuild kits DELIVERED!! PM me for details. Last edited by montezuma; 04-14-2010 at 03:45 PM.

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04-14-2010, 11:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
dirtchicken Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 78331 Location: State of confusion Posts: 1,426	Post reported. This belongs in the newbie forum.

04-14-2010, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Will.The.Thrill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85302 Location: davis, ca Posts: 518	sounds like he's trying to unload a can of worms on you, IIRC those axles are hard to get parts for and are different that other dana 44s. if you want a solid axle go with a toyota axle, $0.02

04-14-2010, 01:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Romix Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Member # 136011 Location: UTAH Posts: 314	Toyota axles could easily handle what you want to do with your truck.. You should look up "The Clyde Build" by FKNFALCON. He already has his front end under that 4wd swap project.

04-14-2010, 02:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
rotccapt Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158363 Posts: 4	the guy has several scouts that he bought to build one and he offered them to me if i wanted them for that price. also what is different on the scout 44's compared to the others that would make parts harder to find?

04-14-2010, 02:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Will.The.Thrill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85302 Location: davis, ca Posts: 518	i really don't know for sure, i just heard that from some guy with a scout i met at the archery range, I've never researched it...that's probably something you should do if you plan on using scout axles

04-14-2010, 03:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
rotccapt Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158363 Posts: 4	good point thanks for the tip

06-06-2010, 08:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
FKNFALON Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 105761 Location: Yakima, WA Posts: 472	Just did this with a 1st gen 2wd. It's an easy swap the Ida is easy to cut off reall quick and simple. The shackles are a pain to cut into the frame cause the tg jigs wouldn't work. Your going to need a tranny as well as a transfer case. Your better off finding a set of toy axles though just my two cents. If you have any questions shoot me a pm or check out my build thread.