Just wondering if anyone knows what the specs are on the factory coil suspension that is for sale on All Pro's site. I am interested in swapping this suspension setup into my runner but I don't know if it would all fit. Any info would be great.
All that info is just one phone call away. Pick up the phone and start dialing. Not to difficult i don't think............
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I did. I spoke with Jon and he said Chris would know something about the axle. So I thought I might post and have someone like Chris reply. Besides I don't have the money to be calling a 909 area code number and asking a million questions.
oreo,looking at the pics i would say itsa mini front(solid non vented rotors).
looks like if you were careful you could cut off all the important mounts and weld to your frame.
imo,if you bought it and decided (after measuring) that it would be to difficult,you wouldn't be out anything. the high pinion third http://www.allprooffroad.com/gears.html is going for more than your purchase price. you could cut off all the mounts and stuff and go leafs if you wanted. my.02
That is a front end from a landcrusier bundero I think. It's an LJ or LC 70 can't remember which. I am working on swapping the same type of front end into my 86 PU. All my local buddies here in Iceland have told me the swap is very common and not too complicated. The shape of the frame on the Bundero and the PU/4runners is different so it will give you 3-4" of lift just from that, you'll have to match that in the back however you want. The left and right spacing of the frames is very close so you can use the stock tie rod (behind the axle) with a new draglink and your stock IFS steering box/mount. It's a very nice setup and I'll post pics for you all when I get mine done. It's my winter project though, so don't hold your breath. Oh yeah, the axle is identical to the <86 trucks, same axles/birfs/width, so you'll need some spacers to make it match the IFS rear.
from what i have seen in the pics on the site it is a BJ70 cruiser axle, these where know as the bunderas and were basically a SWB cruiser with hilux running gear. The axle is 2 inch wider than the solid axle you guys get as it is most likely the same width as the later model solid axle trucks. So, that said it is about 1/2 thinner on width than your ifs rear, the swap is realtively easy and there are afew down here that have been done. Afew of the advantages are you get the rear steer setup and the HP front diff.
Cutting the mounts from the frame wont be 2 hard as most of them are only tack and not seam welded, if it is an early model the mounts will be rivited on, they us all the same gear as the hilux pick up, same brakes, pads, bearings, gears, axles etc so parts will always be available.
Booger Weldz said to look at an FJ80, waste of time, completely different.
I did. I spoke with Jon and he said Chris would know something about the axle. So I thought I might post and have someone like Chris reply. Besides I don't have the money to be calling a 909 area code number and asking a million questions.
Ok, great. Well, next time, tell us this important info first. That way you'll get your question answered quicker, and you wont make me look like a "pissy mini-moderator", thanks booger.
What could I do about the brake situation? Could I put fj40 rotors on that setup because I want to use my IFS calipers? Also, could I put Hysteer on w/ beefier steering arms on that axle? If I can get hysteer, vented rotors, and fit the coils properly on my 4runner then I will definitely go for this swap.
What could I do about the brake situation? Could I put fj40 rotors on that setup because I want to use my IFS calipers? Also, could I put Hysteer on w/ beefier steering arms on that axle? If I can get hysteer, vented rotors, and fit the coils properly on my 4runner then I will definitely go for this swap.
the brakes are the same as solid hilux, so swap on your IFS outers and then you will have the same width as the rear, that way you will also have the bigger discs and rotors.
You could run histeer, it would work exactly the same as the way in which it would work on a standard leaf setup, the standard steering is already a pretty good setup as it runs behind the diff, hence the reason for the HP diff, you can use your IFS box and run your drag link straight to the steering arm that is already on the housing, or replace this arm and run the rods behind the diff, or replace both the factory steering arms and run an allpro style hysteer. If you choose to go hysteer then you will need to by a new bearing locator as the diff you are looking at has steering arms on both the top and bottom of the passanger, your drivers side.
I know of a dual cab down the street that has had this swap done, i will see if i have time tommorrow to stop and get you some photos.
the brakes are the same as solid hilux, so swap on your IFS outers and then you will have the same width as the rear, that way you will also have the bigger discs and rotors.
So all I have to do pretty much is swap in my old IFS rotors (I hope my IFS rotors will swap onto that axle easily) , put on All Pro hysteer, and weld everything in? That does'nt sound too bad at all. If you could get those pics NIC, that would be great! Thanks for all the info you gave me that was REALLY helpful. Now all I have to do is make sure that the frame width of my 4runner matches the coil width on that axle.
The 80 series is 'almost' the same as the 70 series coil stuff... the 80 is wider and uses some stronger pieces. The bushings at the rear of the radius arms are different.... ummm, oh yeah, a minor point - you can actually find parts easily in the US for an 80.
And you have the $ to do a much more expensive and time consuming job like doing a coiled front end?
Keep it simple, flexy leaves mounted high up on the crossmember, not on some cheesy snowplow drop hanger. Simple and light is where it's at.
No, not really. It'll be an early Christmas present.:flipoff2: Besides it's only $1000 for an axle and the coil stuff instead of $2000 for a leaf spring kit and the axle.
The 80 series is 'almost' the same as the 70 series coil stuff... the 80 is wider and uses some stronger pieces. The bushings at the rear of the radius arms are different.... ummm, oh yeah, a minor point - you can actually find parts easily in the US for an 80.
You probably won't need stronger birfs, as the 80 series uses the biggest Toyota makes.... but yes, you can purchase stronger units. The stock 80 coils give about 3 - 4" lift on a 4 cylinder yota, OME offers various coils... spacers etc are also available.
Yup, for roughly $1k you get a hi-pinion diff, rear steer, coils, extended shock mounts, and more.
I don't get the rear steer deal. Is there a tie rod in front as well as the rear? If I keep that stock coil steering setup what will I have to do exactly to connect the draglink to my steering box (could I get a new pitman arm from Allpro?)?
The rear steer is a sweet setup as is, there is a tie rod behind the axle that runs parallel to the axle and under the HP diff. All you need to do is have a new draglink made to go from your stock IFS steering box to the top/front of the pass. side knuckle. No need to mess with hi-steer with that setup. I'm not sure what pitman arm you'll need, I think you can use the stock one, just make the top end on the new draglink from your old steering rod end.
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