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Old 07-13-2010, 12:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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alright long delay but finally got updates for this

my stuf from davez came in, pics to come later

1 superset longfield axles in the 30spline flavor
1 pair ifs hubs with longfield conv hub gear (hubs to be modded with longfield 6 pin dowel kit)
upper trunion eliminator pins and shims for six shooter
along with some stickers =)
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:39 AM   #27 (permalink)
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alright so it was an interesting night, but got more done. 4.7s and rear case got completed last weekend, but for tonight this what I gots

taking of the stock low speed gearing from the mainshaft shadetree style...slam it on piece of plywood on concrete till it comes off

and got this since I need the needle bearing for the dual adapter

the messy work bench...lots of stuff all over from t-case parts to farm stuff

grease and lots of it for everything on this

the dual adapter and the low speed gear on the coupler

the TG adapter I got from Davez off road was packed very nicley as you guys seen earlier in the thread but there was a couple small nicks,dings on there, its a little aways from the sealling surface and its not raised at all, I think it should be fine



the other thing that was bothering me was getting the the dowel pins in the adapter, the damn thing was so tight I had to sand paper the inside down and then bust out the good old rubber mallet to get those in. other than that I think I can finish up tomorrow.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Did you go with TG dual adapter because of the cost or because you feel its just as good as the Marlin dual adapter?
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:23 PM   #29 (permalink)
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cost is always a factor...but as you can see I am spending the coin for longs, hub gears and just about everything else. I asked dave from Davez off road what he thought. (I know he sells TG but he also sell longs and other stuff, I trust his word) he told me he is just as confident in the strength and longevity of the TG dual adapter as he would be in the marlin one. I think I made a good choice, and so far I don't think I have heard of or seen any failures of the dual adapter (on pirate anyways).
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:15 PM   #30 (permalink)
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finally, that shits been on Mitsus floor forever....so when is it actually going to see some action..(real action)..????
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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finally, that shits been on Mitsus floor forever....so when is it actually going to see some action..(real action)..????
well friking shit on me!!!!

I put together the front crawl box and put the studs into the face of the rear case, all I got left to do is push it together and tighten all the nuts down...but guess what?! The bloody thing wont go together. The studs are not perfectly straight and are hitting the edges of the holes going through the adapter I tried to rubber mallet the friken thing on but it just wonʻt go, I am gonna take another crack at it tomorrow but I just canʻt figure it out. I put grease on the spline going into the adapter and everything.

I think I might have to put a nut on the studs and pound the bitches straight. I was hoping i was going to be able to force it together but that didnʻt work. Its not off a ton but 3 of them are almost a 1/8" out of whack...friken piss me off, I gave up for today and we will see what I do tomorrow.
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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oh yeah, the motor is still at mitsuʻs. I should be getting in there next week or the week after to drop that in and then I should have it running in a week or so after that. So I am aiming at the end of august for running, so test run asap once its running
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:11 AM   #33 (permalink)
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hahaha...right on, get it done...i want to go sample your gram's place..

oh...i would give you some tech advice but i dont know shit about all that "Toyota crap" hahaha
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Old 07-31-2010, 03:18 AM   #34 (permalink)
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You think that bench is messy, you should see my garage!! Have you tried to take the studs that don't line up off and slide it together then install the rest of the studs? Might make it a tad easier to get together.
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I donʻt know if I would be able to reinstall the studs with the adapter on...I will take another look at it today and see what I can try
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ok so studs are just long enough for when the adapter is on. no way to double nut and tighten the studs in after the adapter is pushed on there...spline count matches both are 23 spline... so

quesion is should I shave out the holes just enough to get the adapter on

or... put a nut on the end of the studs and bang the bloody things until it lines up with the adapter

either way doesn't sound ideal...I am worried about banging on the tuds too much and screwing up the aluminum
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ok so studs are just long enough for when the adapter is on. no way to double nut and tighten the studs in after the adapter is pushed on there...spline count matches both are 23 spline... so

quesion is should I shave out the holes just enough to get the adapter on

or... put a nut on the end of the studs and bang the bloody things until it lines up with the adapter

either way doesn't sound ideal...I am worried about banging on the tuds too much and screwing up the aluminum
Do not hit the studs in the aluminum for the shit will crack, if opening up the holes a bit will get the studs through go for it.
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Do not hit the studs in the aluminum for the shit will crack, if opening up the holes a bit will get the studs through go for it.
yah I am waiting to hear back from davez before I go opening up the holes in the $$$ adapter. He did say that some of the couplers are a tight fit sometimes, I figure thats pobably a good thind, less slop i nthe coupler should mean less wear.
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My marlin went together smooth as butter. I think as long as the studs and nuts are torqued properly, there will be no play in the setup.
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I have not had any issues like this, but you know how production products can sway some. Is the input on the t case lining up with the crawl box?
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maybe upside down..??? or backwards..???
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I have not had any issues like this, but you know how production products can sway some. Is the input on the t case lining up with the crawl box?
the t-case input and the crawlbox setup look to be lining up just fine, its just that 4 of the studs are not fully lining up with the holes. Should I just open up the holes just enough to slide it together? The 23 spline 4.7gear input is very snug in the 23 spline coupler, but I am assuming this is a good thing.
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maybe upside down..??? or backwards..???
as for you...

I wish it was that stupid...I did find a couple hiccups in the 120+ step instructions that came with the setup but I am just smart enough to ape(the big monkey) it together.
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Nah! No zipties in the pics!!!
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I think I would take the studs out of the t case and put it up to the the crawl box and see just what is up first.
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Sorry to hear about your dilemma but I have built about 6 trail gear dual case adapter kits and never got anything near the problems your having. Have you checked your reduction box on the transfer case side? Has it been damaged or warped in any way? U could try bolting up the transfer case to
Your transmission to eliminate that possibility.
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I think I would take the studs out of the t case and put it up to the the crawl box and see just what is up first.
thanks Dave H...but no zipties for this part! maybe for t-case skid can though

Davez...I can do that, hopefully I can see whats going from there
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so following Davez info, I took out all the studs from the rear t-case and tried to push the 2 halves together...no good. The fit going into the coupler is so tight that it only makes it about 1/4" onto the rear case input shaft. I put a little bit of grease around he front edge of the input shaft before I pushed it on. The fit was so tight that when I pulled it off the coupler was pulling the input shfat to th point the bearings were bending the retainer. I have pics and will try and post up after work today.
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Ahh that sucks!
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i love zip-ties..!!!
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