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Old 02-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #276 (permalink)
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:20 AM   #277 (permalink)
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looks like a better winter style trail
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What determines a better winter style trail?
See above.

A trail that a jeep can handle when it's snowy.

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I missed the Snow Bash, I but I think Blacktail in the winter would be an awful lot of fun.
Come on up. I missed Snow Bash getting my buggy ready for KOH, and need a Blacktail run this winter.

It's also great in April in the corn snow!!


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Also, Blacktail/Wildbill trail is nothin to be afraid of. It's a fun run and stock rigs can take bypasses when wanted. It's not a difficult trail, but one could make it so!
Yup! The Skyliners and Big Sky 4-Wheelers clubs have worked very hard to make the trail system challenging for built rigs while interesting (but not impossible) for stock-ish rigs.

Stock-anything isn't going to make the trail in the winter. You need at least wide 33's on most rigs, or 31's on a Sami and air down to 2-4 or less psi. Locker(s) help but aren't absolutely necessary.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:51 PM   #278 (permalink)
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A trail that a jeep can handle when it's snowy.



Come on up. I missed Snow Bash getting my buggy ready for KOH, and need a Blacktail run this winter.

It's also great in April in the corn snow!!




Yup! The Skyliners and Big Sky 4-Wheelers clubs have worked very hard to make the trail system challenging for built rigs while interesting (but not impossible) for stock-ish rigs.

Stock-anything isn't going to make the trail in the winter. You need at least wide 33's on most rigs, or 31's on a Sami and air down to 2-4 or less psi. Locker(s) help but aren't absolutely necessary.

See the funny part is that I'm new to wheeling and have gotten support by everybody except a few yota owners yes my jeep would have a hard time up there now with a 3 inch lift and 31s that's not much better than stock.
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Toyotaguys will allways make fun of and or give jeep guys a hard time.as long as its not a big pile of junk you will be fine.
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See the funny part is that I'm new to wheeling and have gotten support by everybody except a few yota owners yes my jeep would have a hard time up there now with a 3 inch lift and 31s that's not much better than stock.
Glad to hear you're getting into the sport! You should come wheel up here when the snow melts. You will have a blast! Don't be hatin' on the yota guys. It is all in fun.

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See the funny part is that I'm new to wheeling and have gotten support by everybody except a few yota owners yes my jeep would have a hard time up there now with a 3 inch lift and 31s that's not much better than stock.
Don't get all butthurt. You're on Pirate.

Flip some shit back this way. It's all good!




Just don't say that Blacktail isn't great for snow wheelin'. It is.




Snow: Be willing to air down to single digits. Ideally 1-2psi.
Take along an air compressor.

Blown beads are a possibility at these low pressures, but you'll go much farther with low tire pressure.
Take along a hilift jack.
Take along a can of ether and a match and be willing to use it. (and have an idea of how to light a tire safely).

Get your rig LIGHT!! Run your soft top if you have one, or go topless and dress like you're going skiing or snowmobiling!!

Sipe your tires.

Borrow some larger tires. Snow is relatively forgiving. If you're not being a throttle-jockey, you can run 33s or possibly 35's on your D30/D35 and just motor along normally.

See the funny part is I'm willing to help you, but I'll also flip you a lot of shit, especially if you're thin-skinned!

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Toyotaguys will allways make fun of and or give jeep guys a hard time.as long as its not a big pile of junk you will be fine.
We don't know what to say to the badass Dodge guys, so we just give them room.

You're more likely to find a big pile of junk Toyota on the trail than a pile of junk Jeep. Chances are, the pile of junk Toyota owner put his money into stuff you can't see. It's the shiny Jeep guys you have to watch out for.
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You should come wheel up here when the snow melts.
Absolutely! You can get into as much or as little of 90% of the obstacles as you want!!! There is fun to be had whether you're on 28's or 40's or everything in between.
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Dammit I wanna go!. Anyone got an extra trailer?
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Dammit I wanna go!. Anyone got an extra trailer?
Go where, and where are you from? I have two..

One gooseneck and one bumper-pull.. setup so I can pull both at the same time.
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From missoula to the run this saturday.
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See the funny part is that I'm new to wheeling and have gotten support by everybody except a few yota owners yes my jeep would have a hard time up there now with a 3 inch lift and 31s that's not much better than stock.
It all depends on who the driver is.

I used to wheel my wife's rig to make things more interesting.. until there was that trip with what I thought was a non-op oil pressure gauge.. turns out, the gauge was working fine..

Pretty much anywhere you go you're going to struggle with the deep snow until you re-learn how to drive, so you might as well stay closer to home. No point in driving across the state for that!

I usually tell the new guys to bring their rig, but be prepared to ride shotgun - I'd rather have you ride with me and learn some more than get frustrated and turn back.

I don't mind dragging guys around, but some folks have a hard time dealing with being on the wrong end of the strap. Better to park your rig and ride along and get the experience than to turn tail and run, or really hurt yourself/rig by trying to make it do things it's not ready for.
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I have my brother coming from Missoula if anybody is up for the ride but will not be going back till Sunday because we are staying at the cabin, so Jeb if your interested let me know and I'll set you up with my brother


And to mt4runner
I'm a small guy and it's the only way for me to fight back especially because I know little bout 4x4 but know enough to get by
And just saying that my way of fighting back worked lol I got some good info from ya lol


Also have room left in the cabin if anybody is interested still
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Stoked for you guys to have a cabin. I've only ever done day trips.

Big arctic front coming in. If it gets shitty cold at night, consider bringing your batteries in so they've got some starting power in the morning.
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Wish we had more people going most people I know have issues with vehicles or work but should be a blast just hope the weather is decent wish us luck
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Wish we had more people going most people I know have issues with vehicles or work but should be a blast just hope the weather is decent wish us luck

If I didn't have to work (damn Lithia Jeep Chrysler Dodge dealership! At least workin at a Mopar dealer provides 100% job security! ) I'd roll up to Blacktail/ Wild Bill with ya!

Best of luck with the weather! Have a great time and POST PICTURES for us who have to web-wheel after work




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I could ask if anyone is going to blacktail. Id be tempted but its probly pretty icy in parts
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I could ask if anyone is going to blacktail. Id be tempted but its probly pretty icy in parts
With this storm we're havin, I would think any ice would have plenty of snow on it by Saturday, but I could be wrong.



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True im sure it snowed upthere since it rained/snowed in kalispell
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Wish we had more people going most people I know have issues with vehicles or work but should be a blast just hope the weather is decent wish us luck
Id still love to go, but I havent had my blazer out in a while and I'm not sure of a shakedown run that far from home.
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If I didn't have to work (damn Lithia Jeep Chrysler Dodge dealership! At least workin at a Mopar dealer provides 100% job security! ) I'd roll up to Blacktail/ Wild Bill with ya!

Best of luck with the weather! Have a great time and POST PICTURES for us who have to web-wheel after work
You sound familiar. I think we've wheeled together before. Do you suffer from multiple personality disorder?

I'd be down for going, too, but I'm waiting to get my Hammers-sliced Irok sidewall fixed.

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True im sure it snowed upthere since it rained/snowed in kalispell
I skied Blacktail on Sunday with my kiddos. There was about 4" of fluff on top of about a foot of chunkiness on top of 96" of settled base. I'm pretty sure the mountain got another 3-4" of pow at that elevation while we got rain/snow/ice in town. Edit: snow report says 3" last 24 hours.

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I was thinkn about checking it out but seems I dont have to now haha
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So brother ended up blowing his trany in his jeep and will be while till thats fixed as well as others canceling on me for this weekends trip so I'm calling it off

Super sad was going to be my first real ride in my jeep but now I can get d rings and such mounted and ready for the next ride
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So brother ended up blowing his trany in his jeep and will be while till thats fixed as well as others canceling on me for this weekends trip so I'm calling it off

Super sad was going to be my first real ride in my jeep but now I can get d rings and such mounted and ready for the next ride
Thats a bummer as it sounds like you were set to have a good time and were pretty stoked for it...

anyhow I would like to recommend a GREAT trail for your next ride...It's called Wild Bill/ Blacktail

with some notice you can usually find a good group of locals that would be willing to spend the day up there and there is camping at the trail ..I know its not a cabin but were hardcore in these parts you would definatly have a good time!! just bring your "thick skin"
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