Wild West 100 Carnage - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

crzyxj · 09-27-2010, 09:04 PM

Post up your carnage from the race. I am curious to see what took its toll on your rig.

The damage I have found so far:
Shattered left front stub and hub, I believe the extra stress from the left side giving up caused the right hand axle joint to let go and throw a cap that ground off the lower ball joint bolt. Chromoly inner shafts arrived today, Now I can use the outers and slugs I already have

The swaybar arms met the coilover lockrings removing some valuable aluminum from them

, And the lower crossbrace under my fuel cell was introduced to the upper 4link arms and became an arch. Will be installing Airbumps this winter

Never use DIY beadlocks while racing

Some of the bolts came loose on the right rear and I got a flat, I am thankful the BFG Krawler is still good, thanks Shane for yelling at me at the checkpoint! Allieds for next year for sure

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With the breakage The Buggy sustained I am amazed it finished. It just goes to show, What you don't know won't hurt you.

crewchief · 09-27-2010, 09:21 PM

6 sheared studs on axle, seal behind tq converter let go (took me out of race), rear housing is smiling at me. The rear housing has had the shit kicked out of it many times so thats not a real big deal. Also all my heims ends are loose but they are also almost 5 years old. Time for a tear down new paint and modifications to make it better yet. O ya i cut the inside of my drivers tire doing a little bump to pass on a certain car.

MT4Runner · 09-28-2010, 07:00 AM

Haven't even unloaded mine from the toterhome.

I know I broke my antenna off and my number fin when I rolled!!

I jumped waay more than I expected, so I need to look for bent Toy housings.

FatRon · 09-28-2010, 07:37 PM

4 broken body mounts, hole in frame from mount ripping out, rear shocks toast, battery mount hangin by a thread. Not too bad considering the roughness of the course.

Wild Hare · 10-09-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crzyxj

Never use DIY beadlocks while racing

Some of the bolts came loose on the right rear and I got a flat, I am thankful the BFG Krawler is still good, thanks Shane for yelling at me at the checkpoint! Allieds for next year for sure

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uh, maybe some locktight rather than bashing on diy beadlocks

rcurrier44 · 10-10-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by crewchief

O ya i cut the inside of my drivers tire doing a little bump to pass on a certain car.

That's one hell of a bump to pass to cut the inside of your tire

crzyxj · 10-10-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Hare

uh, maybe some locktight rather than bashing on diy beadlocks

It was the wheel I bent at the challenge. I don't think loctite would have helped!

crewchief · 10-10-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rcurrier44

That's one hell of a bump to pass to cut the inside of your tire

HAHA yes it was!

montanatrout · 10-12-2010, 11:36 AM

i dont know if we got a pic or not but blazer busted the hose end aluminum cap of the nitro reservor on a brand new 16" foa 2.5 coilover. lost all oil, most of it on us. on the last lap the feed line for the power steering cracked off the pump rendering the donkey done. very fun race. next year i get to drive my own rig

crzyxj · 10-14-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by montanatrout

i dont know if we got a pic or not but blazer busted the hose end aluminum cap of the nitro reservor on a brand new 16" foa 2.5 coilover. lost all oil, most of it on us. on the last lap the feed line for the power steering cracked off the pump rendering the donkey done. very fun race. next year i get to drive my own rig

I should have taken a picture of that, it was trashed! I wonder if they are going to warranty it?

montanatrout · 10-14-2010, 07:35 PM

he told me they are gunna rebuild it at no charge....as they should, it had mabey two runs on it!!!!!they have a name to uphold

MT-Toy · 10-15-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by montanatrout

i dont know if we got a pic or not but blazer busted the hose end aluminum cap of the nitro reservor on a brand new 16" foa 2.5 coilover. lost all oil, most of it on us. on the last lap the feed line for the power steering cracked off the pump rendering the donkey done. very fun race. next year i get to drive my own rig

Who'd you race with Chris? Where do you call home now? I'm in Ms or TN months at a time since last March. Badass wheeling in that neck of the woods btw!

MT4Runner · 10-16-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MT-Toy

Who'd you race with Chris?

Quote:

Originally Posted by montanatrout

i dont know if we got a pic or not but blazer busted the hose end aluminum cap of the nitro reservor on a brand new 16" foa 2.5 coilover.

MT-Toy · 10-18-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MT4Runner

Gotcha! Skimming over doesn't help. I bet that was a blast. Is that Andy's rig in that pic then?

montanatrout · 10-20-2010, 04:13 PM

heres more...........

montanatrout · 10-20-2010, 04:17 PM

more...

montanatrout · 10-20-2010, 04:18 PM

that was a way fun race, blazer drove great, and other that breakin down on the last lap, the donkey did awesome!!!!!!!

Ditchrunner · 10-21-2010, 04:50 PM

That 300 (that's what I heard it was anyway) ran pretty darn well. Good race.

I REALLY hope I can swing this race next year. I'm tired of watching/helping!

Blair

MT4Runner · 10-22-2010, 07:02 AM

I'm probably not racing next year and plan to be there to help--either at a checkpoint or in the pits. I learned I'm not a driver--I'm a co-dawg/pit guy.

crewchief · 10-22-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MT4Runner

I'm probably not racing next year and plan to be there to help--either at a checkpoint or in the pits. I learned I'm not a driver--I'm a co-dawg/pit guy.

WHAT! You beat me haha!

2manyprojects · 10-22-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MT4Runner

I'm probably not racing next year and plan to be there to help--either at a checkpoint or in the pits. I learned I'm not a driver--I'm a co-dawg/pit guy.

Found a alternative to your dilema, more suspension, less power = same speed but plusher ride and similar price?

Only if we could stop there.

MT4Runner · 10-23-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crewchief

WHAT! You beat me haha!

Yeah, but no offense--it didn't excite me!
I love being around racing, love driving a bit fast on the trails, but going to the max my body and suspension can handle wasn't fun. I'm not competitive enough to want to do that.

I like the logistics of planning for the race--and working in the pits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2manyprojects

Found a alternative to your dilema, more suspension, less power = same speed but plusher ride and similar price?

Only if we could stop there.

I couldn't think of a way to build a $7k car that's not on leafs!!!

crewchief · 10-23-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT4Runner

Yeah, but no offense--it didn't excite me!
I love being around racing, love driving a bit fast on the trails, but going to the max my body and suspension can handle wasn't fun. I'm not competitive enough to want to do that.

I like the logistics of planning for the race--and working in the pits.

I couldn't think of a way to build a $7k car that's not on leafs!!!

Hey its not for everyone. I cant get enough of it my self but to make it possible we need people to help set it up and run it. Its awesome you want to help with making it possible.

rcurrier44 · 10-26-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MT4Runner

I couldn't think of a way to build a $7k car that's not on leafs!!!

SAW Airshocks (new but GOOD price) + 7/8" Ruffstuff joints (on sale & pirate discount) + those newish 100$ each heatreated lowers = about 1700$

It's what we are doing with the new buggy but it's still not a "fast" suspension. My wife and I added up what we thought it would take to build a KOH wining suspension and it easly passes the 10k mark. Going fast ain't cheep, and ain't going to happen for us untill she gets out of school

MNorby · 10-27-2010, 11:48 AM

I bet Jayson would warn agains airshocks in a go-fast application after powell's race. Maybe get some classified ad C/Os or FOAs for budget.

09-27-2010, 09:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
crzyxj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100591 Location: Wittmann,AZ Posts: 522	Wild West 100 Carnage Post up your carnage from the race. I am curious to see what took its toll on your rig. The damage I have found so far: Shattered left front stub and hub, I believe the extra stress from the left side giving up caused the right hand axle joint to let go and throw a cap that ground off the lower ball joint bolt. Chromoly inner shafts arrived today, Now I can use the outers and slugs I already have The swaybar arms met the coilover lockrings removing some valuable aluminum from them, And the lower crossbrace under my fuel cell was introduced to the upper 4link arms and became an arch. Will be installing Airbumps this winter Never use DIY beadlocks while racing Some of the bolts came loose on the right rear and I got a flat, I am thankful the BFG Krawler is still good, thanks Shane for yelling at me at the checkpoint! Allieds for next year for sure. With the breakage The Buggy sustained I am amazed it finished. It just goes to show, What you don't know won't hurt you. __________________ Special thanks to my Sponsors, ADS Racing Shocks, Jones Auto Centers, MCM Motorsports, Select Auto Glass, Rigid Industries, Foddrill Motorsports, 4 Wheelers Supply, BTG Rock Krawlers, Pro Diesel, And my Co-Dog Ed Duncan (go nuts) 3rd Place Mod-Trail Class 2013 Dirt Riot, Congress, AZ

09-28-2010, 07:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
MT4Runner IDIot! Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44480 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 16,631	Haven't even unloaded mine from the toterhome. I know I broke my antenna off and my number fin when I rolled!! I jumped waay more than I expected, so I need to look for bent Toy housings. __________________ Motive Gear Land Use Team http://www.tenfactory.com http://www.motivegear.com http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com http://www.mastercraftsafety.com FToy 086 - UHaul Toterhome

10-12-2010, 11:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
montanatrout Granite Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 56693 Location: not home Posts: 836	i dont know if we got a pic or not but blazer busted the hose end aluminum cap of the nitro reservor on a brand new 16" foa 2.5 coilover. lost all oil, most of it on us. on the last lap the feed line for the power steering cracked off the pump rendering the donkey done. very fun race. next year i get to drive my own rig __________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." '79 F-350 Crewcab, Cummins, 6spd. 37s NPF chassis, 6.0, 4L80E, 404s, 42s, NUKEPROOF FAB. Last edited by montanatrout; 10-12-2010 at 11:37 AM.

10-14-2010, 07:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
montanatrout Granite Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 56693 Location: not home Posts: 836	he told me they are gunna rebuild it at no charge....as they should, it had mabey two runs on it!!!!!they have a name to uphold __________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." '79 F-350 Crewcab, Cummins, 6spd. 37s NPF chassis, 6.0, 4L80E, 404s, 42s, NUKEPROOF FAB.

10-20-2010, 04:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
montanatrout Granite Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 56693 Location: not home Posts: 836	heres more........... Attached Images __________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." '79 F-350 Crewcab, Cummins, 6spd. 37s NPF chassis, 6.0, 4L80E, 404s, 42s, NUKEPROOF FAB.

09-27-2010, 09:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
crewchief Rock God Join Date: Oct 2003 Member # 23545 Location: Osburn Idaho Posts: 1,889	6 sheared studs on axle, seal behind tq converter let go (took me out of race), rear housing is smiling at me. The rear housing has had the shit kicked out of it many times so thats not a real big deal. Also all my heims ends are loose but they are also almost 5 years old. Time for a tear down new paint and modifications to make it better yet. O ya i cut the inside of my drivers tire doing a little bump to pass on a certain car.

09-28-2010, 07:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
FatRon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Member # 169825 Location: South Dakota Posts: 17	4 broken body mounts, hole in frame from mount ripping out, rear shocks toast, battery mount hangin by a thread. Not too bad considering the roughness of the course.

10-20-2010, 04:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
montanatrout Granite Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 56693 Location: not home Posts: 836	more... Attached Images __________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." '79 F-350 Crewcab, Cummins, 6spd. 37s NPF chassis, 6.0, 4L80E, 404s, 42s, NUKEPROOF FAB.

10-20-2010, 04:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
montanatrout Granite Guru Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 56693 Location: not home Posts: 836	that was a way fun race, blazer drove great, and other that breakin down on the last lap, the donkey did awesome!!!!!!! __________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." '79 F-350 Crewcab, Cummins, 6spd. 37s NPF chassis, 6.0, 4L80E, 404s, 42s, NUKEPROOF FAB.

10-21-2010, 04:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ditchrunner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34517 Location: Mt Posts: 353	That 300 (that's what I heard it was anyway) ran pretty darn well. Good race. I REALLY hope I can swing this race next year. I'm tired of watching/helping! Blair

10-22-2010, 07:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
MT4Runner IDIot! Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44480 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 16,631	I'm probably not racing next year and plan to be there to help--either at a checkpoint or in the pits. I learned I'm not a driver--I'm a co-dawg/pit guy. __________________ Motive Gear Land Use Team http://www.tenfactory.com http://www.motivegear.com http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com http://www.mastercraftsafety.com FToy 086 - UHaul Toterhome

10-27-2010, 11:48 AM	#25 (permalink)
MNorby Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11448 Location: Wyoming Posts: 3,273	I bet Jayson would warn agains airshocks in a go-fast application after powell's race. Maybe get some classified ad C/Os or FOAs for budget. __________________ MNorby's Goat - 2 seat Ibex buggy - Powell Valley 4 Wheelers - MNorby's YouTube Channel - PV4W Photo Gallery

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