The High Lakes is now closed from all and every direction

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Yeah, that guy has no idea what he's talking about. And I never said it was for sure. But don't be shocked if it turns up to be.

[jeepinnorcal]

1/4 mile visibility earlier in some parts Chico...crazy how smokey

[84t0y]

damn this sucks, but im glad i dont live up there anymore, seems like every summer the air is filled with smoke.

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by jeepinnorcal

1/4 mile visibility earlier in some parts Chico...crazy how smokey

Hype... Left paradise early this morning and spent the day all over Chico. Visibility was never worse than a mile, I'd say.

[jeepinnorcal]

Originally Posted by Wilson

Hype... Left paradise early this morning and spent the day all over Chico. Visibility was never worse than a mile, I'd say.

Well about 10:30 we grounded a flight out at the airport..I didn't make the call but they felt it was warranted

[trannyboy]

can you say another backburn that got out of control. cant give up sources but there was strong recommendations against backburning and those backburns backfired and got us in the current situation that we are in. not to far off from what burned concow down to the ground a few years ago.
forest service brings the suck when it comes to fighting fires that protect or ohv and blm lands. let it burn is their view on it . so stay away or get caught in backburn

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Hey tranny, maybe you should go fight it if you know everything there is to know about fire mgt.

[jeepinnorcal]

Originally Posted by admode

Hey tranny, maybe you should go fight it if you know everything there is to know about fire mgt.

Alot of Pardise residents have a less than stellar impression of CDF after the 2008 fire..Cdf was one of the biggest drives in getting the multi million dollar secondary escape route into motion tho..but yes they are way more concerned with structures than land guys 4 wheel on..stated above they actually use existing trails as fire lines..its sad and it sucks..but as long as it stays smaller than the storre fire in 2000...and rehab efforts are strong it will grow back...

[jeepinnorcal]

it seems like the fire has made it past the doser lines or it would be more contained right?

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3052/

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by jeepinnorcal

it seems like the fire has made it past the doser lines or it would be more contained right?

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3052/

Twice, it would seem.... Which is my concern with the current lay and wait approach. Seems thus far they have been unable to "hold the line" when the fire gets to it

It also looks as if they've changed the planned lines near spring valley and lott's perhaps to spare the cabins at lott's?

[Pavement Pounder83]

Originally Posted by trannyboy

can you say another backburn that got out of control. cant give up sources but there was strong recommendations against backburning and those backburns backfired and got us in the current situation that we are in. not to far off from what burned concow down to the ground a few years ago.
forest service brings the suck when it comes to fighting fires that protect or ohv and blm lands. let it burn is their view on it . so stay away or get caught in backburn

As someone who wheels and fought fire and is from your area, i would rather have more area burn than have someone killed. pretty sure the concow fire was managed by cal fire not the forest service at least in the beginning.

[jeepinnorcal]

crap i didnt look inciweb for like 12hrs...fires over 30k acres and containment droped to 8% this fire

[Black01taco]

Originally Posted by jeepinnorcal

crap i didnt look inciweb for like 12hrs...fires over 30k acres and containment droped to 8% this fire

43,746 acres and $19,000,000 spent so far

[Cobra5.0Jeep]

Originally Posted by trannyboy

can you say another backburn that got out of control. cant give up sources but there was strong recommendations against backburning and those backburns backfired and got us in the current situation that we are in. not to far off from what burned concow down to the ground a few years ago.
forest service brings the suck when it comes to fighting fires that protect or ohv and blm lands. let it burn is their view on it . so stay away or get caught in backburn

Forest service know what they are doing more than any other agency when it comes to forest fires. It's a Forest Service fire now because it's on forest land, and that's steep terrain. You don't know the cause of the fire jumping the dozed line, I hate armchair quarterbacks. Learn the reason for backburns and you'll know why they do it. Life is more important than anything.

[Pantheus]

Originally Posted by trannyboy

can you say another backburn that got out of control. cant give up sources but there was strong recommendations against backburning and those backburns backfired and got us in the current situation that we are in. not to far off from what burned concow down to the ground a few years ago.
forest service brings the suck when it comes to fighting fires that protect or ohv and blm lands. let it burn is their view on it . so stay away or get caught in backburn

So many words, so little fact

So far we have been incredibly fortunate in that not one inch of wheel-able or camp-able land in The High Lakes OHV area has burned. The closest it is is near lower Chips Lake, which is barely hike-able, and sure not wheel-able, plus a couple ponds that can't be drivien to Barely touched Ben Lomond, which burned twice in the last 12 years.

The back fires are on the northeast and east sides of this fire, and while it was human involved, NOT by backfiring..

Given weather, smoke, and because of so many fires everywhere, USFS is doing a great job of saving our area.... not at all deserving of this knock on them

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[jeepinnorcal]

Originally Posted by Pantheus

So many words, so little fact

So far we have been incredibly fortunate in that not one inch of wheel-able or camp-able land in The High Lakes OHV area has burned. The closest it is is near lower Chips Lake, which is barely hike-able, and sure not wheel-able, plus a couple ponds that can't be drivien to Barely touched Ben Lomond, which burned twice in the last 12 years.

The back fires are on the northeast and east sides of this fire, and while it was human involved, NOT by backfiring..

Given weather, smoke, and because of so many fires everywhere, USFS is doing a great job of saving our area.... not at all deserving of this knock on them

Looking at the map the fire looks like it is about to burn into Morris..for many that is the only "Real" wheeling up there

[Pantheus]

Originally Posted by jeepinnorcal

Looking at the map the fire looks like it is about to burn into Morris..for many that is the only "Real" wheeling up there

At this point it is just about where the 2000 Storrie fire burned to.... stopped just short of Chips and Morris Lakes.... Not much standing fire fodder to crown .... just heavy ground cover and down fall -- keeping fingers crossed, and mind optomistic.

[jeepinnorcal]

Originally Posted by Pantheus

At this point it is just about where the 2000 Storrie fire burned to.... stopped just short of Chips and Morris Lakes.... Not much standing fire fodder to crown .... just heavy ground cover and down fall -- keeping fingers crossed, and mind optomistic.

Didn't the storrie fire burn all the trail into mud lake/benlmond all those new trees they planted were really young I know there was a big rehab process going on last few years..it suck to lose any progress that made in that area

[Pantheus]

Originally Posted by jeepinnorcal

Didn't the storrie fire burn all the trail into mud lake/benlmond all those new trees they planted were really young I know there was a big rehab process going on last few years..it suck to lose any progress that made in that area

Storrie burned to Ben Lomond, and beyond, but not to Mud Lake, Chips Lake, or Morris Lake. It is a damn shame those who don't like what we do, ( eco-terrorists ) have prevented timber sales, and the forests just suffer from wasteful fires instead of healthy harvesting, even if by chopper.

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I have an updated map of the chips fire over laid with the storrie fire layer. I can't post it to here, so if anyone wants to see it email me at therealadmode@sbcglobal.net and I can forward it to you.

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For some reason the latest map isn't all that great, but gives you an idea. We get them once every day or too so I can pass along the crappy one we have now, and any good ones in the future, if anybody is interested.

[jeepinnorcal]

Originally Posted by Pantheus

Storrie burned to Ben Lomond, and beyond, but not to Mud Lake, Chips Lake, or Morris Lake. It is a damn shame those who don't like what we do, ( eco-terrorists ) have prevented timber sales, and the forests just suffer from wasteful fires instead of healthy harvesting, even if by chopper.

I agree out with old in with the new..logging=revenue not to mention how freaking expensive this is all gonna be..

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http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba631

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Chad hansen is the nut job who sues everyone of our timber sales on the lassen, plumas and Tahoe (probably other forests too) if he has time for it. He has no background/understanding of forestry, wildlife biology, even simple science for that matter. He's just a lawyer trying to impress his wife and the earth island institute by suing the forest service every chance he gets. He stops progress. He causes catastrpohic wildfires like the chips and the angora. His philosophies are dangerous and destructive. You want a name to assign to your blame? It's chad Hansen.

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jan/20/local/me-23885