aw $h!+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mrtoddb]

If you get water in a 5.3 Vortec through the intake and this loud obnoxious tapping commences, is that bad????









Looks like I'm down for awhile, if not out all together. Got 7 runs out of it, yee haw....

[Tjeepfreak]

Ouch!!!

[brutal]

Damn, that sucks...(no punn intended)....L

[linked&bobbed_S10]

Please finish the story?!

[mrtoddb]

I was just crossing waterway in Disney coming from the trails and goign to head down the river bed. Crossed here 100+ times before, and even on 35's! I guess with the gates all being opened for so long, it washed the river bed out a LOT!!! I was easing across, and just dropped off a little ledge just enough that it gulped up some H20. Lots of very bad noise commenced, I killed it. We pulled the plugs, turned it over, no water. Sprayed carb cleaner and WD in each, lit it and turned it over some more. Still no water at all. Spark plugs were wet on threads, but not sure if it from inside or they got wet coming out. Changed the oil on the spot. Started it up, and sounded no different. Drug the carcass up on the trailer, brought it home, unhooked batt's on truck and Jeep, locked them up, covered them up, and drove home.

To be continued... some day... hopefully.

[mrtoddb]

Originally Posted by brutal

Damn, that sucks...(no punn intended)....L

That was good, I needed a laugh.

[apeters89]

well damnit man

[mrtoddb]

The bad part is, I crossed in the same spot at Rocktober in the same Jeep and no issues. I'll tear into it pretty soon, and see what can be done, and then it will have a snorkel, and if anybody doesn't like it, they can pony up for the next motor!!

I'll be on here asking for help, so, stay tuned, it will be entertaining to say the least.

[Landslide]

That's a bummer

Something similar happened to one of guys in my crew. Thing that was different was his engine got deep in the water and he stopped and got back OK without hydro locking it and the intake never went under water or in it. Odd part is once he got out of the creek we headed up a the hill on a trail and once on top his engine just stopped.

We towed it back to camp (night time) and checked it over. Found milky oil and way the fawk overfull needless to say it destroyed all the bearings and whatnot and he ended up having to overhaul it.

I'm still perplexed on how he got that much water into the crank case It can't get past the piston and even if it did, that much would have hydro locked it up first right? He wasn't in the deep water that long.

[daveoffroad]

When were you there TODD. We were there over the weekend. One of our new guys from Wichita ran his pickup into the water and Hydro locked it Sunday. He had drove it down there. Had to leave it at the camp and going back Saturday to get it. It had a new 460 in his Ford....Locked up solid. Think he bent some rods...

[Tjeepfreak]

I saw the Video of that Dave, that guys local to me even . Yeah I saw the video of that over on another site, had some pretty good vids, even got to see a couple of the rest of your guys group too. Looks like there was alot of fun to be had other then the whole deep water thing.
That Ford went in Deep too, kinda made me Kringe when I saw that just thinking of all the work that there is to come on that.
I'm all Loaded up and ready to head that way this afternoon, prolly around
2-3 or so, ready for the long weekend

[daveoffroad]

What site was that video on. All I seen was a phone pic and the aftermath. I was up at the camp loading when this happened.

[Tjeepfreak]

it was over on the TK4x4 website...
http://www.trailkrawlers4x4.org/tkbb...hp?f=1&t=11281

that's the link to the thread I saw it in, if you follow the Vids to the Photobucket acct, There's some other vids, including a couple of the Dragonfly

[mrtoddb]

Originally Posted by daveoffroad

When were you there TODD. We were there over the weekend. One of our new guys from Wichita ran his pickup into the water and Hydro locked it Sunday. He had drove it down there. Had to leave it at the camp and going back Saturday to get it. It had a new 460 in his Ford....Locked up solid. Think he bent some rods...

I was thinking you guys were going to be down there THIS weekend... Oh well, looks like a good time was had by all, except a couple of us. Sorry we missed you.

We were there Sunday, just shaking down BigJ's rig. Only ever saw the Rock Garden and Rollover. I busted a steering line that left us stranded for a few in teh garden, then main power cable came loose and then the water event!! I guess we actually wheeled about 3 hours. Got there about 10 and was on the truck before dark.

[BACRAKR]

5.3's are cheap go buy another one.

[HalfFastFord]

I had a similar occurance once. Thought my motor was fawked too. Turns out the flywheel cover gets hot, then warps when it hits cold water and sounds awful grating on those torque converter bolts. Pulled it apart yet? I'm curious to know since no water was found in the engine.

[mrtoddb]

Found a complete motor for $800 with everything except the harness, and I'm using mine anyway. I'll just swap it in, get the old one out and then go to work on it. I figure it is quite possible I'll spend close to $800 getting it running anyway, just save the time.

I'll post up when I get around to it, but could be a month or so. Christmas gets all the money right now.

[jayz8886]

That sounds high for a 5.3. They pop up alot on Okc Craigslist in the 500 range for complete ones with harness.

[mrtoddb]

Originally Posted by jayz8886

That sounds high for a 5.3. They pop up alot on Okc Craigslist in the 500 range for complete ones with harness.

Bet they don't have 30K miles and a warranty though. This guy will guarantee it to be in good shape and run great, or give me another. He has dealt with a few friends and all have had great luck. Rather spend a little more and KNOW what I'm getting than save $300 and have no idea and no recourse.

They have come down a LOT in the past year. I paid $1900.00 for the one in there now with a flashed and reprogrammed computer, stock otherwise and it was the best deal I could find, turnkey, anywhere.

[apeters89]

Originally Posted by mrtoddb

Found a complete motor for $800 with everything except the harness, and I'm using mine anyway. I'll just swap it in, get the old one out and then go to work on it. I figure it is quite possible I'll spend close to $800 getting it running anyway, just save the time.

I'll post up when I get around to it, but could be a month or so. Christmas gets all the money right now.

I'm out of comission for a while myself
I sold my big trailer, and I haven't brought anything to replace it with yet.


$300 for a guarantee, sounds too cheap to pass up.

[jayz8886]

hard to put a price on peace of mind.

[mrtoddb]

Originally Posted by apeters89

I'm out of comission for a while myself
I sold my big trailer, and I haven't brought anything to replace it with yet.


$300 for a guarantee, sounds too cheap to pass up.

I'm sure there is a trailer around OKC you could use or get the word out for a cheap one to get you around. How big you need?

That was my thought exactly, piece of mind is worth the difference, at least to me.

[HalfFastFord]

guess you missed the question. have you pulled it apart yet? what exactly broke? how is it that you're convinced the motor is ruined if no water came out of it? I'm not sure your reasoning for buying another motor makes sense. It may be something minor that cost less than 800 to fix and stick new gaskets/fluids in. Im guessing a valve or two.

[mrtoddb]

Originally Posted by HalfFastFord

guess you missed the question. have you pulled it apart yet? what exactly broke? how is it that you're convinced the motor is ruined if no water came out of it? I'm not sure your reasoning for buying another motor makes sense. It may be something minor that cost less than 800 to fix and stick new gaskets/fluids in. Im guessing a valve or two.

If you heard it, you would understand, it simply hasn't come THROUGH the block YET. Not convinced motor is ruined, but everything I see, hear and know says I'm looking at close to $500 with everything I would need to rebuild it, not counting machine work (If needed) and time. The one I'm buying will have me running in one day, fixing the other is more like a couple of months. I was down over a year rebuilding it, and don't want to sit that much longer. 7 trips in 2 years is about drive my wife nuts and pissing me off. Worth the money in my eyes.

Had about 3 guys I consider decent mechanics and one I consider a VERY good mechanic, and all have said a new motor for $800 with warranty is the way to go. Other motor might be salvagable*, but will take time, money and know how, and I have very little of any. Worst case scenario I have a spare motor or one I can sell. Best case scenario I have a spare motor or one I can sell!!

[HalfFastFord]

gotcha! that makes more sense.