Devils Canyon 24 March 2012

[jsmith7364]

Originally Posted by mikegyver1

Don't get your panties in a bunch
Here ya' babies

Down Hill

Part One
http://youtu.be/z6YheuRHzfU

Part Two
http://youtu.be/ocf2RzJ4aSk

Bottoms Up
http://youtu.be/IZT1Yex4G9A

Mike, Can you send me the embedded link for these three? I want to add them to our website.

Thanks
Joe

[mikegyver1]

Originally Posted by jsmith7364

Mike, Can you send me the embedded link for these three? I want to add them to our website.

Thanks
Joe

Sent to your email

[tjmark]

Originally Posted by mikegyver1

Did you guys break on your way out?

Yea front dana 30 ring gear.

[mikegyver1]

Originally Posted by tjmark

Yea front dana 30 ring gear.

How did you get out? Don't remember seeing you guys at the end of the trail.

[tjmark]

Originally Posted by mikegyver1

How did you get out? Don't remember seeing you guys at the end of the trail.

It did not really slow us down much.

[RockJock'd YJ]

and some minor damage...

[baja dan]

so is this trail opened to everyone now or is it on a permit basis, i was there today i think i found the entrance to the canyon hiked around for a bit looks pretty challenging i saw some tracks going down no signage at all though saying no tresspassing . on my way back to the freeway i saw some bp agents i asked them about the trail being opened they were not sure at all??????

[Jeepman14wheel]

Permit only....

[Hotpeper]

Cleaning out the jeep today. I found Doc Brady's knife. I don't have his info.

Pm me if you do and I will give you my number

[JaysinDesignz]

Originally Posted by baja dan

so is this trail opened to everyone now or is it on a permit basis, i was there today i think i found the entrance to the canyon hiked around for a bit looks pretty challenging i saw some tracks going down no signage at all though saying no tresspassing . on my way back to the freeway i saw some bp agents i asked them about the trail being opened they were not sure at all??????

No signs telling you about Big Horn Sheep Humping?

[miguelitojeep]

Originally Posted by JaysinDesignz

No signs telling you about Big Horn Sheep Humping?

There were signs, a lot of them actually on the road to the trail.

Forgot to snap a pic, but said something about endangered wildlife etc.

You would probably need to ask a Ranger, BP probably has no clue.

[Bo Neece]

Originally Posted by britain

Looks like fun. Here's the sign off sheet from the first meeting at the BLM on the closure. Geared 4 fun was instrumental in the the start on getting this trail opened. Imagine a trail that was reopened.....Thanks to all who pushed to get this trail opened!

FIVE Friggin years since we sat down with BLM in El Centro that day.

[Jeepman14wheel]

I am ready to go again....

[jsmith7364]

Well I wish I could say that I am ready to go again.

Broke the right outer shaft and the rear Detroit while in Moab. So I have a few things to fix.

Whats the cheapest you will go on your 8.8 rear? It would give me a spool and extra shafts.

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by jsmith7364

Well I wish I could say that I am ready to go again.

Broke the right outer shaft and the rear Detroit while in Moab. So I have a few things to fix.

Whats the cheapest you will go on your 8.8 rear? It would give me a spool and extra shafts.

Joe, the way you drive with that V8 you'll break the 8.8 as well. Just bite the bullet and get a GM corp. 14 bolt and put dually hubs on it.

[jsmith7364]

Well I don't think that I have run out of 8.8 room yet. I am not heavy on the skinny pedal and when the detroit broke, I was in shock. I was just trying to back out of the space that I broke the front outer shaft.

The front, when you look at it appears to have been cracked previously. Too much color difference and old looking on the inside of where it cracked.

But, have the super 88 kit shafts in the rear bring a new light to trying to find shafts when you are in immediate need.

I broke the front, tried to back out and the rear went, we thought it was a shaft in the rear. When I pulled it all out, it was not the shaft, yet I only have power on one side. Spoke to the Eaton guys and I need to pull it apart and order the parts.

I wouldn't mind going with 1 tons but then it won't fit in my 5th wheel.

Right now I have about 2" on each side, maybe a little more. My WMS is 56" So 58" is as wide as I can go. So I would have to modify a 1 ton to get it to work. I don't think that is feasible at the moment. I have looked at just building one. Using the ruffstuff 9" housing. But that will be pricy in the end.

I am probably going to just install my chevy outer knuckles and put the high steer arms on and order a set of RCV's. They are guaranteed for life up to 40" tires.

[miguelitojeep]

14 bolt? Upgrade that motor to a 4cyl, that'll fix your problems

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by jsmith7364

Well I don't think that I have run out of 8.8 room yet. I am not heavy on the skinny pedal and when the detroit broke, I was in shock. I was just trying to back out of the space that I broke the front outer shaft.

The front, when you look at it appears to have been cracked previously. Too much color difference and old looking on the inside of where it cracked.

But, have the super 88 kit shafts in the rear bring a new light to trying to find shafts when you are in immediate need.

I broke the front, tried to back out and the rear went, we thought it was a shaft in the rear. When I pulled it all out, it was not the shaft, yet I only have power on one side. Spoke to the Eaton guys and I need to pull it apart and order the parts.

I wouldn't mind going with 1 tons but then it won't fit in my 5th wheel.

Right now I have about 2" on each side, maybe a little more. My WMS is 56" So 58" is as wide as I can go. So I would have to modify a 1 ton to get it to work. I don't think that is feasible at the moment. I have looked at just building one. Using the ruffstuff 9" housing. But that will be pricy in the end.

I am probably going to just install my chevy outer knuckles and put the high steer arms on and order a set of RCV's. They are guaranteed for life up to 40" tires.

Joe, you can get 5x5.5 hubs for a D60 front and 5x5.5 dually hubs for the
14 bolt rear. That way you can use your existing wheels/tires and just get
a cheap junkyard set of "rollers" to get it into the 5th wheel.

[jsmith7364]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoCJ

Joe, you can get 5x5.5 hubs for a D60 front and 5x5.5 dually hubs for the
14 bolt rear. That way you can use your existing wheels/tires and just get
a cheap junkyard set of "rollers" to get it into the 5th wheel.

It will not fit with any stock D60. I wish it would, but it won't. I have researched every D60 WMS chart that I could. It is a no go.

You seem to think that it is a height issue when it is a width issue.

[JaysinDesignz]

I have an extra 8.8 I'll sell for $250.

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by jsmith7364

It will not fit with any stock D60. I wish it would, but it won't. I have researched every D60 WMS chart that I could. It is a no go.

You seem to think that it is a height issue when it is a width issue.

I know it's a width issue. You'll have to narrow one side of a D60 for the front.
We've talked about this before. Let's face it Joe, the way your rig is going you'll
be on "40's" before long and you'll need 1 ton axles.

[jsmith7364]

Originally Posted by JaysinDesignz

I have an extra 8.8 I'll sell for $250.

I doubt your 8.8 has the Superior Super 88 kit installed. But if it does, I will take the whole thing for $250.

[jsmith7364]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoCJ

I know it's a width issue. You'll have to narrow one side of a D60 for the front.
We've talked about this before. Let's face it Joe, the way your rig is going you'll
be on "40's" before long and you'll need 1 ton axles.

Well my other problem seems to keep me from doing this. I have to have the axle pinion in a very specific position or my front drivehaft will take out the tranny. I need 19" or less from the center of the pinion to the short side WMS. Anything longer and it won't work.


So I would have to do more than just shorten the long side. I would have to shorten the short side as well and then move to 40" tires so as not to hang up on everything.

One of the options is to build a 9" that will work and be narrow. But that is pricy, doing the same thing with a D60 is just as pricy. Actually about 400 cheaper. And a D60 does;t have a second pinion support with bearing like a 9" does.

It's all about the money.

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by jsmith7364

Well my other problem seems to keep me from doing this. I have to have the axle pinion in a very specific position or my front drivehaft will take out the tranny. I need 19" or less from the center of the pinion to the short side WMS. Anything longer and it won't work.


So I would have to do more than just shorten the long side. I would have to shorten the short side as well and then move to 40" tires so as not to hang up on everything.

One of the options is to build a 9" that will work and be narrow. But that is pricy, doing the same thing with a D60 is just as pricy. Actually about 400 cheaper. And a D60 does;t have a second pinion support with bearing like a 9" does.

It's all about the money.

Yup, both front options are $$$$, but that's what it's going to take to hold up to 40's.
The good part though is that the 14 bolt is pretty cheap and stupid strong.

[mikegyver1]

Hey Joe, I can fix your 5th wheel and get ur jeep to fit with full width axles
:sawsall: