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Old 03-20-2012, 03:34 PM   #51 (permalink)
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They may not post much but they are always watchimg the boards.
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You're kidding right?????

Cal 4 bod members don't read/post on Pirate.

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No kidding... Pirate is for people who go wheeling.....
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They may not post much but they are always watchimg the boards.
To what end? Why do I never see them on the trails?

We call that "Mall" wheeling.....
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There are members that like to push peoples buttons and there are people who react. If you react to late nothing gets done and you lose a opportunity (HDR). If you react to soon people say you have over reacted. A no win situation. Hind sight is 20/20.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #55 (permalink)
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To help you decide what activity you would like to support on Memorial Day weekend, please read this:
http://cal4wheel.com/documents/hi-de...2012-facts.pdf

The email address for the entire CA4WDC Board of Directors is:
bod@cal4wheel.com

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Old 03-21-2012, 12:03 PM   #56 (permalink)
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To help you decide which event you would like to support (the association-sponsored Hi Desert Round-Up or the unofficial event in Stoddard Valley), please read this:
cal4wheel.com/documents/hi-desert-round-up-2012-facts.pdf

The email address for the entire CA4WDC Board of Directors is:
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I'm a club member FIRST, so I'm supporting my club. Jeez, I hope my club rewrites their bylaws before the dues are due. I'd like to stay with my club, but not be forced to pay Cal4wheel.

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Old 03-21-2012, 03:16 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Here is the pdf that Cal4Wheel just released.


http://cal4wheel.com/documents/hi-de...2012-facts.pdf
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:37 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Here is the pdf that North/CentralCal4Wheel just released.


http://cal4wheel.com/documents/hi-de...2012-facts.pdf
fixed it for you.

according to FB: C4WSD has been informed that no South District Officer was asked to be included in the development of this document. Read at your own risk.

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Looks like a pretty solid document to me.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:24 PM   #60 (permalink)
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fixed it for you.

according to FB: C4WSD has been informed that no South District Officer was asked to be included in the development of this document. Read at your own risk.

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You can post what you like. Change your own post or do whatever you want to do. But leave mine alone.

That was sent via the Cal4Wheel mailing list and the document is posted on the Cal4Wheel website.

I was just sharing.

The unfortunate part of all of this is that it is probably going to take both sides to resign. Mark Cave and Harry Baker. As there is too much loss of trust from both sides within all regions. Or Cal4Wheel will probably see clubs not renewing.

It is sad as both individuals have done good things. And in the end, we are all weaker due to this.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:03 AM   #61 (permalink)
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talking about funds and fundraising. how much money was raised at koh, for the save jv. is there a number? what amount from gate and how about passing the hat, which i know i was at 3 at koh and even 1 at tds raffle. i wheel at jv quite a bit and try giving what i can to help keep it open. just saying, how much monies have been donated and exactly where do these monies go? all i ever hear is lawyers and lobbyist. pretty broad statement.
AFAIK: Most of the money raised went to CMRC. (Of which Cal4 is a part of)

All of that $$ is going RIGHT to JV. Just take a peek at what Jeff Knoll is doing.

He should have a report on his Washington DC trip this week up anyday.

And yes, we are going to need money for lobbyists.
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Cal4Wheel will probably see clubs not renewing.

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That is my worry.

We NEED Cal4 more than ever, and Cal4 needs a larger membership to give the organization more voice.

Yeah, I can't stand the politics and infighting, and I don't agree with everything they do... but I don't agree with everything my wife does also. That does not mean I am going to kick her to the curb.


Stew on that before you jump ship.
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To help you decide what activity you would like to support on Memorial Day weekend, please read this:
http://cal4wheel.com/documents/hi-de...2012-facts.pdf

The email address for the entire CA4WDC Board of Directors is:
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Thanks for posting and letting every one know the truth of what happened. Now maybe some of the haters will get on board to work with the organization.
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The BOD can't seem to get along with each other, they trid kicking one out to the curb. When one dist is excluded from what the rest is doing, those members in the dist have no say on anything. No consideration is given to the membership or what they want.

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Old 03-22-2012, 10:58 AM   #65 (permalink)
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OMG. I just read the document.

So THAT'S whats got everyone pissed?

Did any of you guys watch The Real Orange County Housewives last week?

Viki was going to throw a huge party at a Restaurant, and Tamra said she was going to make the reservation.

Tamra said the party was all set when they were at Heather's house for a get together, but she forgot to make the reservations becuase she was slammed with other shit. When she figured that out she didn't make the reservations on time, she went to cancel that party and planned another one with some other housewives at a different spot.

Viki and all the OC housewives got all pissed off and sent off an e-mail to all the party goers explaining what happened becuase they thought Tamra did it on purpose. Tamra's clique got all pissed off that they were not included in creating the e-mail, and vowed to not hang out with Viki and her friends. They even de-friended them on Facebook.

At the end of the episode though, Viki ended up getting reservations at the original spot anyway because the Housewives eat there all the time. Since everything was fixed, they all showed up at the party and everything was fine. (Until the next episode when the Housewives found out Heather talked to Lauri and they got pissed off becuase they don't like Lauri.)




We should film all this stuff and make a show to generate $$ for land-use!
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I too am tried of this petty bickering and constant bulshit. But when you have been a member of CA4WDC for over 30 years like I have and you have watched someone inside that organization continue to work agianst the association sometimes you must stop watching and act . That is what the CA4WDC BOD has done. This action was not agianst the clubs in the South District it was about a few people who continue to lie, spread rumors and not act in the best interests of the association they represent.
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OMG. I just read the document.

So THAT'S whats got everyone pissed?

Did any of you guys watch The Real Orange County Housewives last week?

Viki was going to throw a huge party at a Restaurant, and Tamra said she was going to make the reservation.

Tamra said the party was all set when they were at Heather's house for a get together, but she forgot to make the reservations becuase she was slammed with other shit. When she figured that out she didn't make the reservations on time, she went to cancel that party and planned another one with some other housewives at a different spot.

Viki and all the OC housewives got all pissed off and sent off an e-mail to all the party goers explaining what happened becuase they thought Tamra did it on purpose. Tamra's clique got all pissed off that they were not included in creating the e-mail, and vowed to not hang out with Viki and her friends. They even de-friended them on Facebook.

At the end of the episode though, Viki ended up getting reservations at the original spot anyway because the Housewives eat there all the time. Since everything was fixed, they all showed up at the party and everything was fine. (Until the next episode when the Housewives found out Heather talked to Lauri and they got pissed off becuase they don't like Lauri.)




We should film all this stuff and make a show to generate $$ for land-use!
In a nutshell......... Yes, we could raise a lot of money if this was a reality TV show. I like the idea. Thank you for voluntering to do this.
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Here is the pdf that Cal4Wheel just released.


http://cal4wheel.com/documents/hi-de...2012-facts.pdf
Nice fiction, or should I say revisionist history........ Bye Bye c4wd. I will give my $$$ and time to CORVA, FOJV.
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OMG. I just read the document.

So THAT'S whats got everyone pissed?

Did any of you guys watch The Real Orange County Housewives last week?

Viki was going to throw a huge party at a Restaurant, and Tamra said she was going to make the reservation.

Tamra said the party was all set when they were at Heather's house for a get together, but she forgot to make the reservations becuase she was slammed with other shit. When she figured that out she didn't make the reservations on time, she went to cancel that party and planned another one with some other housewives at a different spot.

Viki and all the OC housewives got all pissed off and sent off an e-mail to all the party goers explaining what happened becuase they thought Tamra did it on purpose. Tamra's clique got all pissed off that they were not included in creating the e-mail, and vowed to not hang out with Viki and her friends. They even de-friended them on Facebook.

At the end of the episode though, Viki ended up getting reservations at the original spot anyway because the Housewives eat there all the time. Since everything was fixed, they all showed up at the party and everything was fine. (Until the next episode when the Housewives found out Heather talked to Lauri and they got pissed off becuase they don't like Lauri.)




We should film all this stuff and make a show to generate $$ for land-use!
OMG

This is so funny, I gotta start watching more TV.

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Nice fiction, or should I say revisionist history........ Bye Bye c4wd. I will give my $$$ and time to CORVA, FOJV.
Where's the LIKE button?

Thanks for pointing out that there are more options than North/CentralCA$WDC.

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Nice fiction, or should I say revisionist history........ Bye Bye c4wd. I will give my $$$ and time to CORVA, FOJV.
I support both CORVA and FOJV, so no argument from me there. Good groups, as are others.

But if the pdf isnt correct, enlighten us. I'm always open to hearing both sides of the story and Im sure others here are as well.

Got info ?


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In a nutshell......... Yes, we could raise a lot of money if this was a reality TV show. I like the idea. Thank you for voluntering to do this.
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Where's the LIKE button?

Thanks for pointing out that there are more options than North/CentralCA$WDC.

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Huh? I don't understand your reasoning.

Seems to me from reading this that if you should be pissed off at anyone, it should be Harry for forgetting to get the permit. Isn't he a South District guy?

Even so, you can't be TOO pissed off at the guy. From what I have seen, he has a lot on his plate, and well.... quite frankly, he's like hella old. (Just kidding. I forget shit too)

Whatever... things are fixed now. Everyone needs to just relax and not Orange County Housewives everything.

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I too am tried of this petty bickering and constant bulshit. But when you have been a member of CA4WDC for over 30 years like I have and you have watched someone inside that organization continue to work agianst the association sometimes you must stop watching and act . That is what the CA4WDC BOD has done. This action was not agianst the clubs in the South District it was about a few people who continue to lie, spread rumors and not act in the best interests of the association they represent.
Does your 30 years include the time that you walked away from being President?????????

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I support both CORVA and FOJV, so no argument from me there. Good groups, as are others.

But if the pdf isnt correct, enlighten us. I'm always open to hearing both sides of the story and Im sure others here are as well.

Got info ?


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