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Old 04-15-2009, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did Table Mesa really close?

I heard that Table Mesa closed..... either I talked to a dope head, or its closed. Is this true? And if so, why the hell did it close?
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Dope head.
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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the main entraance on the left side was grated and new gas lines put in...maybe thats what they saw

trails are still accessible
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mike (howyadoin) had way too much fun with Chads mom one night so they had to close it down for disinfection purposes....
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Certain trails are on the chopping block. Hope we can win this fight, as 3 of them are great trails.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mike (howyadoin) had way too much fun with Chads mom one night so they had to close it down for disinfection purposes....
....he was on fi-ya ....oh, no wait......
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Okay, freakin dop had I talked too.

Gotta get up there sometime, thanks for the replies.
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Mike (howyadoin) had way too much fun with Chads mom one night so they had to close it down for disinfection purposes....
Fawkin' HazMat!
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Old 04-19-2009, 09:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The rumor I heard is that it is closed on high air pollutant days for dust control. I was told the cops were turning away rig after rig one day
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The rumor I heard is that it is closed on high air pollutant days for dust control. I was told the cops were turning away rig after rig one day
The turning away of people I believe was for when they were doing the construction. The workers there didnt like the fact that people were target shooting near them so thats why they had it closed for a little bit.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The turning away of people I believe was for when they were doing the construction. The workers there didnt like the fact that people were target shooting near them so thats why they had it closed for a little bit.
Thats State Trust land. NOBODY is supposed to be target shooting out there!
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Not all of it is STL, there is BLM and private property too. But I agree, no one should be shooting there. Ben Avery Shooting Facility is about 10 miles CLOSER to town. You just can't dump your shit there, like the jackasses do at TM.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:39 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I have not seen much about the BLM plan for TM on any forums. Check out the BLM link

http://www.tablemesarecarea.com/

Looks like a lot of things are on the hit list in the near futyre
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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http://www.tablemesarecarea.com/Clos...%20Summary.pdf

I summarized the trail names and reason for closure of each.
This SUCKS.

Project Manager: Tom Bickauskas 623-695-2013 thomas_bickauskas@blm.gov

12F=Section of Middle Terminator
Route crosses private property (not approved for access)
In Desert Tortoise Habit Cat 2 (closing route could directly or cumulatively improve habitat)
In a High Density Route Area (where reductin route density would benefit wildlife or objective such as loop trails)
In an Area where route proliferation is occurring (closure benefits wildlife or improve trail system management)
In a Riparian corridor (closure would allow for improvement of condition)

273=Armageddon
In Desert Wash (closure could improve desert wash habitat)
In Desert Tortoise Habit Cat 2 (closing route could directly or cumulatively improve habitat)
In a High Density Route Area (where reductin route density would benefit wildlife or objective such as loop trails)
In an Area where route proliferation is occurring (closure benefits wildlife or improve trail system management)
In a Riparian corridor SPRING (closure would allow for improvement of condition)

306=Collateral damage
Route crosses private property (not approved for access)
Route goes through or is proximate to a cultual site (within 1/4 mile)
In Desert Wash (closure could improve desert wash habitat)
In a High Density Route Area (where reductin route density would benefit wildlife or objective such as loop trails)
In an Area where route proliferation is occurring (closure benefits wildlife or improve trail system management)
In a Riparian corridor ACCESS ROUTE (closure would allow for improvement of condition)
Leads to/Ends at a Riparian Corridor

307=Twisted
Route crosses private property (not approved for access)
Route goes through or is proximate to a cultual site (within 1/4 mile)
In Desert Wash (closure could improve desert wash habitat)
In Desert Tortoise Habit Cat 2 (closing route could directly or cumulatively improve habitat)
In a High Density Route Area (where reductin route density would benefit wildlife or objective such as loop trails)
In an Area where route proliferation is occurring (closure benefits wildlife or improve trail system management)
In a Riparian corridor ACCESS ROUTE (closure would allow for improvement of condition)
Leads to/Ends at a Riparian Corridor

309=Middle Terminator
Route crosses private property (not approved for access)
In Desert Tortoise Habit Cat 2 (closing route could directly or cumulatively improve habitat)
In a High Density Route Area (where reductin route density would benefit wildlife or objective such as loop trails)
In an Area where route proliferation is occurring (closure benefits wildlife or improve trail system management)
In a Riparian corridor (closure would allow for improvement of condition)

310=Judgement Day
Route crosses private property (not approved for access)
In Desert Wash (closure could improve desert wash habitat)
In Desert Tortoise Habit Cat 2 (closing route could directly or cumulatively improve habitat)
In a High Density Route Area (where reductin route density would benefit wildlife or objective such as loop trails)
In an Area where route proliferation is occurring (closure benefits wildlife or improve trail system management)
Leads to/Ends at a Riparian Corridor
In or Proximate to Wilderness Characteristics Area (closure would benefit maintaining this area)

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TM trails

The map that is published is very hard to read and I believe that the trail closure list is even greater than what they admit to.

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More are on the way fellas. They have the universal anti fun off road code book and they're using it step by step.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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All our offroad areas are closed, looks like its back to pulling off the road and wheeling wherever whatever you can find.
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Any new news on the TM area. I like to crawl in this area and I like to ride in the dunes in Cali. Everywhere I go, they want to shut the land down. What the hell!
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Are you registered to vote and you bother to do so? They'll gladly mail you a ballot wherever you are.....free.

Maybe we need to get serious?

Or we can continue to do the same things and expect a different outcome.

Let's organize a cleanup or help them inventory the trails ......again.
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I went to AZ for a wheeling trip for the week between Christmas and New Years, i spent Sat. thru Wed. in FJ and till Sun. in TM.
Both were AWSOME the best trails i have wheeled outside of Moab and Farmington. Fj being better than TM, but TM looked REALLY REALLY BAD!!!!! I mean BAAAAD!!!!
It's not the wheelers it's the shooters, WOW that place is the worst place for trash I have ever seen! I can not beileve the county has not shut that place down. There is several things that can be done about this but none are being done. One thing is for sure SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!!!!!Heath.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The area of Table Mesa near the Agua Fria River is private and has recently been fenced off. So, there is no access to the "beach" near the river. But, you can still legally (easement) cross the river to get to the trails on the other side.

Picture of Table Mesa at Agua Fria River is from April 2010:


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Old 05-20-2010, 06:45 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The last clean up was May 8th. BLM supplied a 40 yard dumpster. About 60 people showed up to help, the dumpster was full in 4 hours. Arizona virtual jeep club posted it on another local site alloffroadaz.com. Thats where i heard about it. Some trails are still opened. We just have to keep working at this to so we have SOME place to wheel.
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The last clean up was May 8th. BLM supplied a 40 yard dumpster. About 60 people showed up to help, the dumpster was full in 4 hours. Arizona virtual jeep club posted it on another local site alloffroadaz.com. Thats where i heard about it. Some trails are still opened. We just have to keep working at this to so we have SOME place to wheel.
I agree. I was at that cleanup, and we did well. Unfortunately, there is still so much trash out there. With more volunteers, we could have doubled or even tripled the amount of trash that we picked up.
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And PLEASE do not be one of the guys going on the private property at night, ripping up, running over Roberts fence to drive up and down the river or access ds, cd and other trails from the river bottom. its disrespectful and just going to get our trails shut down faster he does technically own the lower half of the trails, even if you run them from the top down.

It always has been private property, noone gave a fuck about the old town though and now someone bought it and knows what Gilette was and intends to develop the land
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