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Old 10-17-2018, 11:19 AM   #76 (permalink)
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looks good, got any pics how springs and shocks are mounted to frame?

how much is the axle moved forward from stock?
Hey man sorry didnt get back to you faster. The axle is most likely moved forward 4-6 inches total. Thats just an estimate, I'm not sure exactly how I would even measure.

Here are a few pics of how the coils and shocks are mounted to the frame.


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Old 10-17-2018, 11:27 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Its been a while since I put up an update, here's what I have accomplished since the last one.

Added a Wagoneer pitman arm to increase turning angle.



Triangulated the lower control arms to improve suspension geometry and give the tires more room to turn in.



Relocated my track bar to outside of the frame to not only lengthen it but match the new drag link angle.




Here is how the truck sits now, needs a nice wash and wax but shell get it.



Got a pretty good dent on the 3rd door from sliding into a tree in snow. Plan on fixing that as well as adding rock sliders to prevent this from happening again.


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Old 10-17-2018, 11:28 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Nice Truck, now secure your front brake lines at the chassis!
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:26 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Nice Truck, now secure your front brake lines at the chassis!
I KNOW! I keep forgetting to order the clamps. At some point
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Old 10-28-2018, 07:20 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Am I seeing that correctly? Your frame side lowers are attached to a flatbar crossmember? It looks like it's already bent.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:36 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Am I seeing that correctly? Your frame side lowers are attached to a flatbar crossmember? It looks like it's already bent.
Yeah was literally a last minute thing that one day, I'm going to set one up with 1.75"x.250 tube in the spring probably.
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:16 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Nice build man, really well done.
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Old 07-14-2019, 04:55 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Been a minute since I posted an update, but finished some work on the truck today. Put in a Ruff Stuff triangulated lower control arm bracket. Pretty trick setup now. Plated the frame where it mounts also.





Also checked clearance after removing some metal in front of the tire.



Me and my buddies are prepping for a trip to Rausch creek, next on the list is making some rock sliders to prevent more body damage. I'll get on that next week.

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Old 07-14-2019, 06:20 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Driveline looks super close or even touching in the pictures, im assuming it isnt though.

Way better setup than your old crossmember if you wanna call it that

Your gonna want to plate the frame where the steering box attaches here sooner than later. It will end up trying to pull itself off of the frame. Not sure if Knaffle is still checking in to this thread but if i remember correctly from many years ago he found some bolts of the correct length and style 1/4" or so longer to account for the plating. I believe it was his truck or one of his customers that opened everyones eyes to the problem. I can find a picture of what i did on my blazer if youd like.
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Old 07-14-2019, 07:01 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Driveline looks super close or even touching in the pictures, im assuming it isnt though.

Way better setup than your old crossmember if you wanna call it that

Your gonna want to plate the frame where the steering box attaches here sooner than later. It will end up trying to pull itself off of the frame. Not sure if Knaffle is still checking in to this thread but if i remember correctly from many years ago he found some bolts of the correct length and style 1/4" or so longer to account for the plating. I believe it was his truck or one of his customers that opened everyones eyes to the problem. I can find a picture of what i did on my blazer if youd like.
Yeah at full bump my driveshaft is like 1/4" from my control arm. If it starts rubbing Ill have to address it then. Also, my steering box is already trying to pull itself off. I'm probably going to go hydro assist in the near future so that would alleviate the problem.
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What wall thickness tubing did you use for your LCA crossmember. While that one is less likely to bend up like your flat plate crossmember, it's probably going to bend forward or back more easily, especially if only .120" wall tubing.

To fix, you can run some triangulation backwards to another point on the frame that ties in directly behind where the LCAs mount.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:44 PM   #87 (permalink)
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What wall thickness tubing did you use for your LCA crossmember. While that one is less likely to bend up like your flat plate crossmember, it's probably going to bend forward or back more easily, especially if only .120" wall tubing.

To fix, you can run some triangulation backwards to another point on the frame that ties in directly behind where the LCAs mount.
Its .250 wall 1.75, I was thinking about it might bend already. If I see anything bad I'll address it then.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:46 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Was away for work for the last two weeks, got back this week and adjusted the control arms to work with this new setup. Also threw it up on the forklift to test out the clearances.




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I'm tellin you man, you really need to brace that lower link mount somehow to provide front-to-back support. Brake hard enough and I bet you see it start to deform.
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I'm tellin you man, you really need to brace that lower link mount somehow to provide front-to-back support. Brake hard enough and I bet you see it start to deform.
I'm not disagreeing with you man, I just dont feel like working on the hunk of junk right now!!
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I'd cut out the stamped steel crossmember and incorporate a new crossmember directly behind the link mount.
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:02 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Hows it drive with that much triangulation in the lower arms? Id imagine that at some point the track bar would fight against the triangulation but Im not sure how much is ok


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Old 09-10-2019, 05:50 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Id definitely beef that cross member too. With the links coming in at the middle its a lot of leverage.
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:53 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Hows it drive with that much triangulation in the lower arms? Id imagine that at some point the track bar would fight against the triangulation but Im not sure how much is ok


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It probably roll steers but the triangulation wont fight the trac bar because its a three link. Need a forth bar to make it bind.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:17 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Hows it drive with that much triangulation in the lower arms? Id imagine that at some point the track bar would fight against the triangulation but Im not sure how much is ok


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I dont drive the truck on the road much, but when I do it really needs an alignment for me to gauge if the suspension is good for the road.
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