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Old 10-16-2013, 03:55 PM   #601 (permalink)
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So I guess that means no more pictures in this thread huh? Was really interested in seeing how the Ford axle fit with the wider spring pad width.
You do realize that the truck was a 2x4 so there were no spring mounts. I built all the mounts. But to answer your question. I lined the rear of the springs under the frame, for the shackles. Then I just made the mounts for the front. The springs are about 3" or so narrower in the front than the rear. ****There is nothing wrong with that, actually most of the newer truck are than way in the rear. It helps for lateral stability. I ran a really long shackle 6+" I think.

The truck is still around, I sold it to a guy that went to my high school. (Yes I still live near the town where I grew up ) I do get an Email when this thread is posted, on so if there is any questions on the build. Please feel free to ask away. I really liked that truck and I do miss it.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:30 PM   #602 (permalink)
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I do realize it was a 2wd. That's why I asked because I just picked up a 2wd truck and have a SD60 in my car port right now. Just kind of eyeballing with a tape showed that if I kept the springs straight I was going to have to out board the mounts quite a bit. Was just wondering how yours was set up but all of the pics are gone. Thanks for the response tho.
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I will go back and re post the pics. I have them all. Web shots went on vacation lol.
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I will go back and re post the pics. I have them all. Web shots went on vacation lol.
That would be great! Thanks
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How did it ride and how did you like the cab? Always liked the first gens but the few I drove were pretty loud and hopped like crazy around town. My 2nd gen is a little better but I might grab a first gen down the road. Oh and what actual fuel economy did you get on the 37s?
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:07 AM   #606 (permalink)
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How did it ride and how did you like the cab? Always liked the first gens but the few I drove were pretty loud and hopped like crazy around town. My 2nd gen is a little better but I might grab a first gen down the road. Oh and what actual fuel economy did you get on the 37s?
It drove really nice. It was smooth because of the long leafs F/R. And since it was relatively low it was stable on the fwy and around corners. There is a bunch of insulation on the cab (min of 1" on the firewall and floors) but it was still loud. I think that the cab (fit, finish, material, etc...)is a pile of dog shit. It ratteld everything loose, the cab I'm convinced is made of paper. super thin, can't really use the back for anything other than a place for your backpack and jacket. Even then a pain to get them out. If I were to end up with another 1st gen extra cab (Which I wont!) The seats and mounting of will need to be changed to ones with sliders and tilt forward to get into the back.

I think the frame is super strong and no need to mess with. I did not like the placement of the plastic fuel tank though. I had purchased, and still have a 40 gal suburban tank with all the mounting to install behind the axle.

If you look at my old dodge the only thing that was left on there from the way it was built in Mexico, is the motor, frame and body. Everything else got changed to something *better.

Don't get me wrong I loved that truck, actually more than the 05 CTD I drive now. It was the perfect combination of tow and play. No problem towing 15k+ at 65mph then wheelen all weekend long.

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Please tell me what pics you guys want to see and I will post them.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:43 PM   #607 (permalink)
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i just put a 1979 ford hp 60 into my 2wd first gen, ill be making a build thread soon
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Okay so I started adding the pics. Give me some time and I will have them all back up.
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Okay so I started adding the pics. Give me some time and I will have them all back up.
I saw that today. I really do appreciate it!
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x2 for replacing the pictures. I was rereading the thread recently to see how you did the suspension work and noticed all of the pictures were gone.
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Nice looking truck. Iím assuming it started life as a 2wd. Looking to do that to do that to the one owner 68k mile 2001 cumming 2500 I just picked up. Let the fun begin!
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Nice looking truck. Iím assuming it started life as a 2wd. Looking to do that to do that to the one owner 68k mile 2001 cumming 2500 I just picked up. Let the fun begin!
Ya it was a cool project. The new owner was up the street from me but has now moved. But I still see the ol the truck. Miss it...

My bro just bought a 93' 4x4 that we will be doing some of the same mods to.

And I'm currently building a 79' Chevy with a cummins.

PM me if you have any specific questions and I'll try to help.

Yes it was a 2x that I bought for the motor, ended up building the truck.
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So..... My bro just bought this truck. So it's back in the family. Little to nothing has changed. The previous owner installed a tach, a stack out of the middle of the bed and a CB radio. All except the tach will be removed. Min miles put on her. Still on the same tires. And the A/C stopped working for whatever reason. Maybe 10k since 12/13'

Let me know if you guys want any pics or info.

This truck was better (in power, offroad, milage and towing) than my '05 CTD.
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Glad you have it back in the famn damily
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:33 PM   #616 (permalink)
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nice to see you got it back! i have one in my shop getting a Eaton/fuller 6spd, divorced 205 and some other love. fun trucks to work on!
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nice to see you got it back! i have one in my shop getting a Eaton/fuller 6spd, divorced 205 and some other love. fun trucks to work on!
the eaton seems bit overkill, eh? its going to shift even slower than the nv4500
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the eaton seems bit overkill, eh? its going to shift even slower than the nv4500
after killing 4 nv4500 over 3 years in this truck the owner is over the nv4500.. had a few big name shops build nv4500's and we have seen epic levels of hurt put to them. the owner is done blowing time/money with nv4500's.... its not anything trying to go fast just lots of power and a heavy truck pulling a big trailer. now with a fabricated floor/firewall/dog house its a cake walk to service but i hope the truck never comes back into the shop for a tranny issue.but hey people keep these trucks for epic long so why not build them the way one wants so they can be happy for ever!.

sorry to mud up this thread..... ill try to get permission from the owner of the 1st gen we have been working on to post up some photos... its definitely a bit outside the box build.

K5runner hope your brother brings the tuck out to some diesel meets this fall!
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after killing 4 nv4500 over 3 years in this truck the owner is over the nv4500.. had a few big name shops build nv4500's and we have seen epic levels of hurt put to them. the owner is done blowing time/money with nv4500's.... its not anything trying to go fast just lots of power and a heavy truck pulling a big trailer. now with a fabricated floor/firewall/dog house its a cake walk to service but i hope the truck never comes back into the shop for a tranny issue.but hey people keep these trucks for epic long so why not build them the way one wants so they can be happy for ever!.

sorry to mud up this thread..... ill try to get permission from the owner of the 1st gen we have been working on to post up some photos... its definitely a bit outside the box build.

K5runner hope your brother brings the tuck out to some diesel meets this fall!
What kept failing in the nv4500? Sorry for the derail OP, sort of on-topic..

I'm on my second eaton synchro-6 (diff truck), wouldn't call it bulletproof... to me it seems more about operator shifting properly vs trans being bulletproof
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