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Old 03-30-2010, 07:55 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Along with 78Bronco460, Cumminsboy did a spindle and hub swap also. Not sure if he used 50 or 60 stubs and spindles.

I think by looking at Mr N's post you can clearly see the difference in the spindle and stub. The 50 stub is shorter and it has smaller u-joints. So my post about the rumor of the TTB dana 50 having the same outer is wrong.

Having said that, the TTB Dana 50 Knuckle replacement if you can get the camber right, still has to be better than the Dodge unit bearings...and cheaper than a set of new unit bearings too. The added servicability factor for the Ford wheel bearings makes it worth the look.

My reason for posting this as an option is to present an alternative to tearing apart a perfectly good Dana 60 for the knuckles and hubs.

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I think by looking at Mr N's post you can clearly see the difference in the spindle and stub. The 50 stub is shorter and it has smaller u-joints. So my post about the rumor of the TTB dana 50 having the same outer is wrong.
There's two TTB 3/4 ton set ups. One uses the smaller 8 lug D44 style hubs and one uses the bigger D60 style hubs. The spindles on the "HD" TTB 50 work fine for the BJ Ford D50 and D60 knuckles.
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I saw 2 TTB F-250's at the wrecking yard yesterday. The hubs looked big, like a 60, but the length actually looked shorter. I have to go back today to pick up some parts, I will take some pictures and measurements.

I knew there were two setups but thought the Dana 44 version had much smaller diameter hubs like and F-150.

When I get the pictures maybe I can send them to someone who can post em up.

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What I saw at the wrecking yard today were the Dana 44 style 8 lug. You can tell they are the lighter duty because the locking hubs are the same size as an F-150. The knuckle is approximately 9 inches tall, not sure if the HD ones are taller or not. Maybe the knuckles are the same and just the hub, spindle, rotor and stub axle are different. I had to really look at them for a minute though because the hub is kinda tapered like a 60 hub but the locking hub is the giveaway. Any body know the diameter of the 60 freewheeling hub?

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This is pretty sweet, I wish someone could figure out a swap for the AAM axle.
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I find it ironic and actually quite hilarious that people have been saying ON THIS SITE for YEARS (and on lots of Dodge websites) that this swap "can't be done." And now that it has been done, it was done by a CHICK and she wrote a pretty good write-up on it!

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I find it ironic and actually quite hilarious that people have been saying ON THIS SITE for YEARS (and on lots of Dodge websites) that this swap "can't be done." And now that it has been done, it was done by a CHICK and she wrote a pretty good write-up on it!

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I find it ironic and actually quite hilarious that people have been saying ON THIS SITE for YEARS (and on lots of Dodge websites) that this swap "can't be done." And now that it has been done, it was done by a CHICK and she wrote a pretty good write-up on it!

People also been saying for years it can be done and dunnit...

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310084

http://www.pavementsucks.com/board/t...ub-swap?page=2
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That's nice. I've seen that. And people still kept saying that it couldn't be done. I'm just pointing out that those people were not only wrong, but a chick did it. I'm not saying she did it first...
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I was looking parts from ebay, and there were 78-97 Ford D60 spindles. Ford used same spindle for two decades? If so, that makes it so much easier to find parts. I'm going to gather parts little by little, when ever I find a good deal. At the moment both bearings are fine, LH was replaced couple of years ago, I'm just waiting RH to let go.
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Could you tell me if the Dodge knuckle and the Ford knuckle are the same width from the ball joint to the face or spindle mounting surface? Thanx RD
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Could you tell me if the Dodge knuckle and the Ford knuckle are the same width from the ball joint to the face or spindle mounting surface? Thanx RD
Buy this front axle and measure it!!!! =]
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Buy this front axle and measure it!!!! =]

buy the way sweet job on the swap I will remember this when mine need new units
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Thanks for the writeup. I've been planning this once my bearings go but didn't have 100% confirmation that it would work until now. Great writeup!
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I don't know, maybe I am not very smart but I really need a list of parts and year they came off of. Could you please help me out here?

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There's two TTB 3/4 ton set ups. One uses the smaller 8 lug D44 style hubs/shafts/smaller u-joints. One uses the bigger D60 style hubs/shafts/bigger D60 u-joints. The shafts in 79fordgirl's post came from a TTB 50. The spindles on the "HD" TTB 50 work fine for the BJ Ford D50 and D60 knuckles.
ttb 50s use 1350 series u-joints not the 1480 dana 60s com with.
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I don't know, maybe I am not very smart but I really need a list of parts and year they came off of. Could you please help me out here?

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Did the WMS change? If so how much?




edit- and the turning radius, did that change any? My 2500 CTD can out maneuver my buddies F350 as far as lock to lock steering.

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I don't know, maybe I am not very smart but I really need a list of parts and year they came off of. Could you please help me out here?

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Any balljoint Ford D60. Knuckles, outer stub shafts, and everything connected to them (ie, spindle, rotor, lockout).

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This is pretty sweet, I wish someone could figure out a swap for the AAM axle.
I did, check out my conversion.
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Does anyone know the difference between the 92-96 and 96.5-98 Ford Dana 60's. I've searched around with limited results. I have found a few axles in the 96.5-98 range and figured if they work it would increase options for the swap.
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Does anyone know the difference between the 92-96 and 96.5-98 Ford Dana 60's. I've searched around with limited results. I have found a few axles in the 96.5-98 range and figured if they work it would increase options for the swap.
I've looked at the D60 under a 96 and a 97 powerstroke, and as far as I can tell they are identicle. There were no 98 1ton super duty's so I don't think there would be any axles listed as that year. As far as I know 92-97 are all indenticle.
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A little late but did you paint the rotors black? Friction surface area too??
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A little late but did you paint the rotors black? Friction surface area too??
No, she didn't, it was just reflection.
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