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Old 03-22-2010, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 Dana 60 Hub removal and converison to Ford Knuckles

So all in the efforts to avoid replacing a wheel bearing and stop the death wobble, I converted my 97 Dodge cummins knuckles to 92/93 Ford knuckles.




Place two pickle forks behind the rotor and hit it really really really hard and it'll come off!




Me setting up the ball joint installation/removal tool

My techinique for pressing the ball joints in and out. =] Gotta put my whole body into it!

Dodge Knuckle off, time for ford knuckle!!!

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Old 03-22-2010, 06:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Stupid unit bearings



Ball joints torqued to;
35 Lower
70 Upper
150 Lower

Stock Ford 30 Spline Dana 60 Axle Shaft mated to the stock 97 Dodge Inner axle shaft. New spindle seals/bushings installed as well to keep dirt/grime out of the spindle.





Screwing in those super duper cap screws. Or whatever they're called.


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Regarding the brakes obviously upgraded to dual piston calipers! Pretty self explantory although the banjo bolt is the right size, it is the wrong pitch. The brake line is plenty long enough as well.



Tie rod bolts right in, my truck was toed out slightly so adjusted the sleeve one turn to get 1/8" toe and it was set to go. All said and done the Ford knuckles only make the tires stick out an extra three quarters of an inch. I had used hubs from a 78-79 Ford which have smaller wheel studs so the lug nuts from the Dodge did not fit. If I used the hubs we had from the 92-93 Ford the wheel studs would have been the right size and the lug nuts would have fit from the Dodge-fail on my part. We used the 78-79 hubs because they were already prepped and ready to go and didn't realize the stud size difference till it was already assembled.
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Another nice product for the BJ 60's that might be worth looking into!

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/ProSte...ep-p-20296.html


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Good tech, you have more tread on your hoodie than you do on your truck.
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EXCELLENT information!! When I saw the pic and caption of, "Me doing...." I had to scroll up and look at your user name.

But great to know that 92-96 Ford knuckles bolt in place of 94-98 Dodge stuff.
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That is impressive and I will put it on my list to do.
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Very cool info. Did you use the dodge inner axles and the ford stub shafts? I assume everything from the ball joints out is ford? Please share a little more of your wisdom with us.
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Im starting to get all my parts together to do my 96. I have deal wobble everytime I drive the truck now. I will be doing 5.13 gears, 37" H1 Tires, recentered 12 bolts and lots of engine work. Its my daily driver to get me around.... Ill be getting the D50 knuckles and out and will be trying that. If those dont work ill get swaping all the D50 parts to a D60 for knuckle and that should work. 35 spline shafts and a detriot are in order.


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So is there a conversion like this for the 1500 series with 44 front?

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So is there a conversion like this for the 1500 series with 44 front?
That doesn't require a second mortgage?
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Good tech, you have more tread on your hoodie than you do on your truck.
What? Can't you tell this is my race truck? Those are obviously racing slicks haha
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So is there a conversion like this for the 1500 series with 44 front?
I don't know of a knuckle that works cause ford went IFS for the 1/2 ton, well maybe the TTB44 knuckles would work? I guess maybe to look into ttb 44 parts, but I don't know anything about them.
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Very cool info. Did you use the dodge inner axles and the ford stub shafts? I assume everything from the ball joints out is ford? Please share a little more of your wisdom with us.
Yes, dodge inners and ford stub shafts. and yes, ball joints out is all ford.
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Well when I blow up my hubs, I know what I am doing
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damn. you put a lot of guys here to shame!! Good Job!!
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You can change my knuckles anytime. I like it. Sexy.
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Yea didn't think about the IFS part but TTB something to check into, Cool beans.
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TTB hubs, knuckles and spindles are the same as the D44 stuff used in 78-79 F150. One thing about using the Ford stuff on a Dodge is that they are the same wheel bolt pattern, 5x5.5.


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Those Dynatrack ball joints are nice but $600 is alot of $.
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Well when I blow up my hubs, I know what I am doing
Pretty sure 94-98 stuff is different than 99-02.
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So the right parts are off 92-96 Ford F-350s? I assume that F250's have are different from the ball joints out.
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damn. you put a lot of guys here to shame!! Good Job!!
X2! Thats some kickass info right there.
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those dynatrack ball joints are nice but $600 is alot of $. :d
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So the right parts are off 92-96 Ford F-350s? I assume that F250's have are different from the ball joints out.
Yeah, these parts are from an F350, some 250s might work seeing as some came with front 60s.
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Rumor has it that the F-250 D50TTB front has a 44 center different beams than the 1/2 ton and 60 outers from the balls joints out.
I've seen a few in the wrecking yard and those F-250 TTB outers sure do have big hubs!

As for the half ton, I would guess pretty much any Ford ball joint 44 knuckle would fit especially if the D44 TTB knuckles are the same as the solid axle ones.

Just need to get rid of the coupler axle and mechanism on the long side.
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