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Old 08-11-2013, 07:35 PM   #1051 (permalink)
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Asked Yawan about that (alternator starter) and he was very skeptical. Said it's highly unlikely, if not impossible, using the type or alternator that's on that APU.
well wtf I am out of ideas. I will try and find someone who knows about M88's
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anywhere in the right direction?

AUXILIARY POWER UNIT (HATZ)

DVoltage Regulator (1) -- voltage regulator receives 28 V dc from the starter/generator (3) and provides28+0.7 V dc to charge the vehicle batteries. Voltage regulator (1) is equipped with a resettable circuitbreaker. If the circuit breaker opens due to an over voltage condition, the reset button (5) can be pushedto reset the circuit breaker.

DEngine (2) -- burns fuel drawn from the right rear fuel tank. Engine drives starter/generator (3) and auxilia-ry hydraulic pump (4).

DStarter/Generator (3) -- connected to the APU engine (2) by a chain. Chain driven by the APU engine (2),the 300--amp 28--volt generator functions as the starter motor. Power from the batteries is used to powerthe starter/generator when starting the APU. Once the APU is started, the starter/generator generates 28V dc and delivers it to the voltage regulator (1) to charge vehicle batteries and supply electrical power tothe vehicle.

DAuxiliary Hydraulic Pump (4) -- supplies hydraulic pressure to run the impact wrench and refuel/defuelpump under normal operations, or raise/lower the spade or boom, and retrieve cables under no load con-ditions under emergency operations.

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anywhere in the right direction?
Sure sounds like it!
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:36 AM   #1054 (permalink)
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look, pictures to go with the words

apu hatz

and you prolly want these

apu operate

apu start cont

apu stop

charging batteries

does it have fuel control valve markings near the hydraulic bits?


BTW the bomag bmp 851 grave roller appears to use the same motor. may be useful to source parts as needed

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Old 08-15-2013, 09:56 AM   #1055 (permalink)
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Awesome, thanks a bunch. Can't answer that question about the fuel control valve, as the APU is still over at Yawan's place.
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:57 AM   #1056 (permalink)
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Made an appointment to go pick-up the new 5-ton. Barstow next Monday at noon. If I haven't uploaded pictures by Tuesday, send help!
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:07 AM   #1057 (permalink)
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I can't wait to see what's in store for the 5 ton.
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Made an appointment to go pick-up the new 5-ton. Barstow next Monday at noon. If I haven't uploaded pictures by Tuesday, send help!
We need a link to the build when you start.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:21 PM   #1059 (permalink)
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That's the beauty of this new truck though, even if it is a little disappointing and/or anti-climatic. It's all done. Sure I'll end up doing a few small things, like putting more comfortable seats in it and shit like that, but not going to do much more than put the M109 box on the back. There are a few little details I'll need to work out in order to make the motorhome conversion work on that platform, but the 'motorhome' part of it is mostly contained in that box.
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Does it have duals or singles in the rear?
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:44 PM   #1061 (permalink)
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What are you going to do with the extra frame? The M109 box is a bit short for a 5 ton chassis. Storage between the cab and bed? Room for your APU?
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Yeah, the M109 box is only about 12ft long and the 5-ton cargo truck has a 14ft long bed, plus the spare tire rack in front of it. Right now I'm thinking that it might work out really well to set the M109 box on top of the cargo bed (instead of removing it). Could put water tanks, batteries, and a generator up in the front of the bed. Probably going to cut-off the cab-over rack because the 900-series cabs are a lot wider than the old 2.5-ton truck cabs, and it's going to sit way further back. Might rebuild something similar to enclose that storage space. Not sure yet. But am really liking the idea of being able to remove the M109 box and having a flatbed truck. Might even modify the dropsides on the cargo bed so that I can lower them 90-degrees and have a wrap-around patio deck?
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Yeah, the M109 box is only about 12ft long and the 5-ton cargo truck has a 14ft long bed, plus the spare tire rack in front of it. Right now I'm thinking that it might work out really well to set the M109 box on top of the cargo bed (instead of removing it). Could put water tanks, batteries, and a generator up in the front of the bed. Probably going to cut-off the cab-over rack because the 900-series cabs are a lot wider than the old 2.5-ton truck cabs, and it's going to sit way further back. Might rebuild something similar to enclose that storage space. Not sure yet. But am really liking the idea of being able to remove the M109 box and having a flatbed truck. Might even modify the dropsides on the cargo bed so that I can lower them 90-degrees and have a wrap-around patio deck?
i like the walk around deck idea..are you going to use a dealer plate to drive it back

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That wouldn't be much of a patio, more like a catwalk, lol. Still, it would be cool for washing the box or doing maintenance.
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You driving it home?
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Yeah, we're gonna try to drive it back. Got a one-day trip permit from the DMV.

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That wouldn't be much of a patio, more like a catwalk, lol. Still, it would be cool for washing the box or doing maintenance.
Well I did say modify...
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Yeah, we're gonna try to drive it back. Got a one-day trip permit from the DMV.
Sweet! I expect an epic YouTube video by the end of Tuesday. Thanks.
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Of the flaming bus full of nuns?
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That's just bonus footage.
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Yeah, we're gonna try to drive it back. Got a one-day trip permit from the DMV.
A half dozen 5-tons just auctioned off for $3K to $4K each locally... Temptation, temptation, temptation...

I didn't know they'd let you drive them away? I thought I heard somewhere that you had to haul it off? Perhaps it varies by locality?
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The rules vary a lot depending on where the vehicle up for auction is located. Some you can drive off, some you have haul off the premises, some you have to do by appointment, etc. It can be a real learning experience for the first time buyer, lol.
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Yeah, it all depends on the location. Barstow will let you drive them out, but they don't want you working on them in the yard. We're taking the cummins and a towbar so we can drag it outside the gates and do some pre-trip maintenance at our leisure. Bought the deuce from a private party (pirate member) and he bought it at auction. Was worth it to me at the time to have an opportunity to look it over, test-drive it, etc. Knowing a little more about what I'm getting into now, feel more comfortable buying direct and taking some of those risks.
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