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Old 07-18-2018, 02:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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F550 in California

From 1998 onward, diesel powered vehicles in CA are required to pass a SMOG certification every two years.

As I understand it, this is ONLY for diesel vehicles 14,000 Lbs GVWR and under.

The actual text on the CA dmv website
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Currently, smog inspections are required for all vehicles except diesel powered vehicles 1997 year model and older or with a Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs, electric, natural gas powered vehicles over 14,000 lbs, motorcycles, trailers, or gasoline powered vehicles 1975 and older.
QUESTION:
Does anyone here have a F550 registered in CA that can verify that you DO NOT have to get a smog cert every two years?

I am considering a purchase of a 2006 F550 for a project, but no smog is a major factor.

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You do not have to smog it but they’ll make you carry commercial insurance and registration will be 500$+. I was having issues with insuring my f550. They wouldn’t do it without a commercial acct and wouldn’t do a commercial acct without a business. I gave up
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So the DMV dictated to you that you must have commercial insurance?

What did your insurance company say? Were they willing to insure it as a private vehicle?

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Honestly, when it comes to the CA DMV, nothing should surprise me... But I am trying to understand the logic.

Foolishly, I was thinking that if the vehicle is insured (with standard coverage), it should be register-able.

I do understand the weight fees for registration are expensive. Part of the cost of a high GVWR vehicle.
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Does anyone know if changing the registration to a recreational vehicle (non-commercial) in any way affects the exemption for the biannual smog cert?
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Does anyone know if changing the registration to a recreational vehicle (non-commercial) in any way affects the exemption for the biannual smog cert?
The only "recreational" vehicle option I'm aware of in CA would be green sticker and then you can't drive on the street.
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The only "recreational" vehicle option I'm aware of in CA would be green sticker and then you can't drive on the street.
I am planning out a motorhome (class C).
My plan is to register it as a motorhome.
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I am planning out a motorhome (class C).
My plan is to register it as a motorhome.
Of course, as a motorhome it will NOT have a GVW rating.. This could potentially short circuit all my plans.
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Wait... It will still have a GVWR, but no weight fees
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You have to meet the criteria to register it as a motorhome. I put my international under non op till I can take it in meeting the “motorhome” rules they want. Then you have lees registration and insurance can be had normally as a motorhome.
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You do not have to smog it but they’ll make you carry commercial insurance and registration will be 500$+. I was having issues with insuring my f550. They wouldn’t do it without a commercial acct and wouldn’t do a commercial acct without a business. I gave up
A friend of mine in Wisconsin had the same problem. I think his truck is some sort of Freightliner MDT.
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You have to meet the criteria to register it as a motorhome. I put my international under non op till I can take it in meeting the “motorhome” rules they want. Then you have lees registration and insurance can be had normally as a motorhome.
Diesel Boy, did you have to do an initial smog cert (visual) when you bought the F550?
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I don't know about california, but I have a F-550. To insure it, I went through progressive. They insure it as a commercial vehicle for personal use only. In South Dakota it cots me $300 per year, in Montana it was over $1000. Insurance is not universal and varies by state. If you can insure it like I have make sure you read the fine print on the policy, because it is not a traditional auto policy. The first time I insured it I had to talk to about 5 different people on the phone. When I moved I just went to an insurance agent, she did all of the work. Definitely worth getting an agent. I hope that helps.
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Diesel Boy, did you have to do an initial smog cert (visual) when you bought the F550?
Nope. Nor did the person who bought it.
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put a shell on it and register it as a recreational vehicle...only draw back is if you get caught hauling stuff in the back, its a FATASS fine.
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I have a f450 had to have commercial ins. Also come 2021 will need 2010 engine or newer. So I would pass unless 2010 or newer truck. I don’t have bi annual smog until then though.
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