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Old 05-22-2012, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fordyce Dam Water Release

I talked to PG&E today and they said the water release will stay pretty much status quo for at least a week (300 cfs) but that there could be fluctuations anywhere from 200 cfs to 400 cfs. There is a new manager for the Fordyce dam and it's sounds like he might be hedging his bet a bit. Then again, the water crossings this time of year are always hard to predict. Remember, snow melt can radically change the amount of water coming down the river. Especially in the afternoon. I don't know how much snow is up there now but keep it in mind.

So if you go, take care when crossing the river. What's crossable in the morning may not be what you see when you get back or to the next crossing.

Don't plan on a day trip. If you get stranded inbetween crossings BE PREPARED to spend a night or more. There is no such thing as a day trip on Fordyce!!

As always, use your head when attempting to cross and know where the proper lines are.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't plan on a day trip. If you get stranded inbetween crossings BE PREPARED to spend a night or more. There is no such thing as a day trip on Fordyce!!

As always, use your head when attempting to cross and know where the proper lines are.

all too true

lines can and do change during the run off season. dont assume that what worked last year will be 100% the same this year

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Old 06-22-2012, 06:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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what is the maximum advised amount listed on 'dreamflows' before a traveler should seriously not consider crossing? say if you have a rig on a certain size tire your ok. say you are running a jeep with 33's then you shouldn't attempt it if the dreamfow is listed at above ?, if your a fullsize on 40's you shouldn't attempt it above ?

again, i read about the blue FJ, dont want to be that guy and i cant seem to find consistant data on this. one guy says this, another says this.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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what is the maximum advised amount listed on 'dreamflows' before a traveler should seriously not consider crossing?
There is no good answer which is why you have not found one. Lots of things need to be considered.

CFM out of the Dam, snow run off, Knowing were the deep holes are and going around them, air intake on rig, computer and electrical on rig, driving ability through water (knowing when to hit the gas and when not to).

An experienced person on 35's with a well-built rig might cross at 300 cfm when a person with a rig on 40's will not go through above 250 cfm.

There are some of us who have crossed at crazy high cfm's and made it through but will probably never try again. If you are going to cross know the correct lines and have a plan "B" if you get stuck in the middle.
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very good answer from JDunn. IMO if you haven't crossed the river before and are going for the 1st time, sticking to 150 and below is a good start so you can learn the lines.

Best option is to go at Sierra Trek for a first timer.
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a guy on 40s wont go through above 250? is it gonna float away? i dont get it
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I'm on 42's, experienced, etc and I won't cross over 250.

1) The rig is still pretty low
2) Motor is spendy
3) efi computer is made of unobtanium
4) spendy stereo

That's about it. Yeah it's been okay in the past with less of a rig, but won't do it with the current 4 wheeled inventment. Personal choice for me. Not fear.
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I crossed in a 89' toyota with 35's on memorial day about 1ish andf it was running 320cf not good and don't recommend it to the inexperianced but I was running with a group of guys that knew what they where doing

edit; this was at the first crossing, the next day we went to commity and it was at 320 to 340 and we said no way
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I say as long as you watch someone else cross 300 is fine. I drive a yote on 38s but I am SLAMMED and have crossed over 350 with no issues. Ive seen rigs drown too. But as long as you keep a bit of momentimum and follow another rig you should be fine. The first 3 are basic, stay towards the rapids. Committee gets strange so pay attention.
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a guy on 40s wont go through above 250? is it gonna float away? i dont get it
My buddies Yota took water into the engine in the middle of the rapids at 250. With the full doors the rig started to move down river, luckily we were able to get a winch line on it pretty quick. When water is moving that fast you need to be prepared for anything.

Crossing at high flows gets taken for granted sometimes imo. Sure if everything goes ok its no problem, but if something did go wrong in the middle it could get bad very fast.
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went through this weekend following a guy that had gone through several times before and my passenger had been through several times before. it is good advice to have a guide for the first couple times out. there is alot to know about what is under that water.

camped just below WH1 first night by the river - would like to know what yahoos decided to try and wake us up at 1 am. stopped thier rigs on the trail across from where we camped by the river. if you see this thanks for leaving all the beercans you fucktards. ya we cleaned up your mess. other than that it was epic wheeling! went up WH1 during the light rain in the AM, made for some severe pucker factor. my new sig pic is at top of WH1 with LF wheel 6 feet in the air. made it all the way through by the end of the day and camped at Meadow lake. overall good times, other than picking up even more of the aformentioned groups cans all over the trail. fresh cans, same brand/type as found at our first camp.
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a guy on 40s wont go through above 250? is it gonna float away? i dont get it
My post was a guideline and in my opinion is a safe rule of thumb. Every rig and driver is different. I'm on 39.5's running propane so I have no computer. I just need to keep my air cleaner dry. My rig is low (I can pull in my garage with 15 psi and clear by 4"). Max I'll cross is 400 cfm but I highly don't suggest it to most and never do it alone. I have crossed at over 500 and will never do it again...

It's like towing a trailer. The manufacturer will tell you the truck will pull 5,000 lbs. That is the "Safe" pulling weight. Sure it will pull 7,500 but after 5,000 you are making the decision it's "safe".

I will go on record, it is safe to cross at 25 cfm.
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