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Old 11-25-2018, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Stuck rig- need extraction help

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Recently I took a 97 Mazda B4000 up through Fordyce with my brothers (and their two jeeps) and the clutch went out. An effort to field repair the clutch happened on 11/19 and while the effort was solid we lacked a tool to bleed a main component and had to leave the truck just off the trail between Winch Hill #1 and Water Crossing #2. Iím posting this with the idea that this group may be able to help - or at least give some advice on whether I should attempt extraction now or wait until spring/summer. With a bleeder I should be able to get it running again. Truck has 4Ē lift, 33Ēx10.5 tires with great tread, LS rear and open front. As we left the truck the clutch still wonít engage and we had to cut the fuel line to fill a can as our Jeep was low before heading back towards Eagle Lakes Rd/I80. Thanks in advance! Dave Jensen (truck owner). Text/call @ 8013191122

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Old 11-25-2018, 01:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would have just found 1rst, jumped the nss and drove it out.

Leaving it till summer will very likely find it with a caved in roof from snow
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just checked Weather Underground for Emigrant Gap this coming week. Snow / rain Wed, snow Thursday, Friday etc. Monday / Tuesday good. Out Committee to Rattlesnake shortest rout out from there, but you will need help up WH2, and Committee. Hope you get it out before winter sets in.
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Old 11-25-2018, 03:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Is Rattlesnake open?
My buddy had to leave a rig there over the winter. Ended up getting stripped down, was easier to cut it in half and haul pieces out.
Axles, tcase, everything was gone.
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I would have just found 1rst, jumped the nss and drove it out.

Leaving it till summer will very likely find it with a caved in roof from snow
This.

Or just drag it out with a working 4x rig.

But THIS, is easy. Who needs to shift gears? Start it in gear, (by bypassing the Neutral Safety Switch), and just drive it. If you need to back up, then kill the engine, stick it in reverse, and restart.

(but first fix the cut fuel line)
(and for what it's worth, y'all sound like beginners, so maybe bring someone with some experience?)
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Old 11-26-2018, 11:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Asshole question, but why didn't his Jeep friends help drag it out, with all the weather incoming?

We never go this late in the year, things can get nasty up there fast.

FB OP... If you do find some friends to go in and help you try to drag that up Committee in the snow, please make sure you are prepared for anything, including sleeping overnight in the snow, and possibly leaving more rigs for the thaw.

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Doesn't look like OP is stuck, looks like he's forwarding a message here.
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Looked on FoF FB page. Didnít see this.
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I saw it on FB, but I didn't see it either when I went back and
looked, but I'm a FB dumbass so maybe it was "shared?"

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Rig is abandoned in the middle of the trail from what I read/understood.

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Old 11-26-2018, 12:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Rig is abandoned in the middle of the trail from what I read/understood.
Yea, i don't know the story behind why the Jeeps with it didn't tug it out with them. Might have been slow, but they could have done it or at least gotten it closer to where its more viable to recovery. I am skeptical of a recovery now with the snow coming in. And if folks do try, they better have some built rigs and plenty of survival gear. They really need some big buggies with big tires for this one.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't get the "leave it on the trail" mentality. Years ago we did a 3 day/ 2 night trip in Canada north of Sault Ste Marie in March. Still lots of snow on the ground. On day 1, 40 miles from anything my TH350 took a shit. I spent the next day and a half on the end of a strap being towed, sometimes double towed to get out. It made the adventure. Lots of creative winching and strapping to get thru tight, muddy, snowy, log covered trails.
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If I had more than 16 hours off consecutively I'd run homie and parts out. But the fact that he had 2 capable jeeps with him and the truck is still there eludes me. Especially if he put fuel in one to get to Eagle. Fucking drive to a Napa, buy parts, beer and food, and get it out
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Wish I saw this sooner. Just got off the trail yesterday. Eagle Lakes -> WH3 -> back out Committee over 2 days... snow was not bad but I think we hit the perfect weather window. Saw the truck. Just assumed plan was in motion to retrieve.

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Had all tools to do a clutch in the feild but couldn’t get the slave bled? I mean are y’all retarded?

I’d never leave my shit, even overnight.
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Had all tools to do a clutch in the feild but couldnít get the slave bled? I mean are yíall retarded?

Iíd never leave my shit, even overnight.
you don't carry around a new clutch disk, pressure plate, and throwout? Get with the times man...
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the big question is... does the light bar work?
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you don't carry around a new clutch disk, pressure plate, and throwout? Get with the times man...
Oh. No. See I have an exact duplicate rig. I tow it behind me so I have every spare part I need.
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the big question is... does the light bar work?
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Oh. No. See I have an exact duplicate rig. I tow it behind me so I have every spare part I need.
your spare parts rig didnt have the bleeder tool either ?

In all seriousness, if you dont know how to bleed a slave cylinder with a wrench and 2 people, you have no business on this trail. Its even easier to bleed it with some tubing and a beer can and one person. If I was closer, Id go yank this dummy off the trail...
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your spare parts rig didnt have the bleeder tool either ?

In all seriousness, if you dont know how to bleed a slave cylinder with a wrench and 2 people, you have no business on this trail. Its even easier to bleed it with some tubing and a beer can and one person. If I was closer, Id go yank this dummy off the trail...
ive been bleeding shit by myself for 10 yrs with a 8" piece of rubber hose stolen from the windshield washer fluid sprayer

gravity is the bomb air goes up fluid goes down


when im feeling fancy i drill a hole in the cap of a plastic water bottle to collect the fluid and use a longer piece of hose
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is the bleeder tool a euphemism for vagina? if it is, I'd submit they had several they just couldn't recognize themselves.
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ive been bleeding shit by myself for 10 yrs with a 8" piece of rubber hose stolen from the windshield washer fluid sprayer

gravity is the bomb air goes up fluid goes down


when im feeling fancy i drill a hole in the cap of a plastic water bottle to collect the fluid and use a longer piece of hose
if you put the end of the hose in the brake fluid in the bottom of the bottle, it wont suck any air back in, just brake fluid.
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Open front, LSD rear, no gears, no winch. Would have been a struggle up Committee on a good day.
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Open front, LSD rear, no gears, no winch. Would have been a struggle up Committee on a good day.
Ill raise you 2 light bars and a party!!
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And 2 Jeeps that can't tow a Mazda!!!

Must have some cool rainbow backlit wheels on them.
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