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Old 06-25-2019, 06:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fordyce Creek passable?

Any updates if Fordyce is passable right now or still too much snow?
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Old 06-25-2019, 06:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No. it’s not the snow, it’s the creek crossing(s).

http://www.dreamflows.com/graphs/day.063.php

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Any updates if Fordyce is passable right now or still too much snow?

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Assuming the flow rates come down next week, no snow issues?
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No idea, depends on how much snow is left to melt, how fast it melts, how much space is in the res, how much they plan to hang onto, what they are doing with the other storage locations, who is making the decision.......
Way to many variables to even guess. Unless they make an announcement or the flow rates stabilize for several days I dont even think about crossing =)
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600 at the dam, plus run off along the way? Ya I think it will be a while

Coming down from Meadow lake is an option, but having done that either memorial or 4th of July in 2017 it gets boring quick. On the other hand we missed the daisy chain disaster at Committee, so I guess the entertainment was there, we just missed it
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600 at the dam, plus run off along the way? Ya I think it will be a while

Coming down from Meadow lake is an option, but having done that either memorial or 4th of July in 2017 it gets boring quick. On the other hand we missed the daisy chain disaster at Committee, so I guess the entertainment was there, we just missed it
meadow lake is still covered in snow btw

from the book of faces, taken this past thursday

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Old 06-25-2019, 09:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The creek is death right now.
Signal Peak still has snow on it.
The gate at Rattlesnake was closed this weekend.
The dirt road in to Meadow still has 8' drifts.
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Sounds like it may not be looking good....
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meadow lake is still covered in snow btw

from the book of faces, taken this past thursday
The snow drifs were actually the most fun part of that trip. Definitely less snow than that but there was still 6-8' drifts in the shade.
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fordyce creek most likely will not be passable for at least a month, maybe more due to how much snow is up there melting off

fwiw when the snow is melting all the creek crossings besides committee will be much deeper than what dream flows says the creek is at, the farther down stream the more snow melt runs into it making it deeper
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From Cisco yes, from Eagle Lakes no, with regards to snow.

My guess when dirtyjed went up Sunday they were preventing dumbasses from killing themselves at 1200 CFS. The kayakers aren’t even touching it and they are more crazy than we are X 1000.

Plus no midget strippers or free ammo and beer. (Gonna regret that one.)

Unless it drops to <300, it’s not happening, and even then, that’s at the dam.

I have a couple of tank sets to look at Friday (make my own schedule haha) and I’ll cruise up Rattlesnake for shits and grins and throw some lures at Long Valley Res.

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I think the gate was closed keep people from tearing up the road too much. It's gotta be a sloppy mud/snow fest right now.
I'm probably gonna try this Sunday.
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Assuming the flow rates come down next week, no snow issues?
Doubtful the flow is down. Runoff is at a high so the flow will be up for at least a month imo
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I’ll check Rattlesnake weekly for the next month. Committe probably won’t be crossable until after the second week of July at the soonest, realistically August. Maybe the rain will hold out until November so we all can go a couple times.

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600 at the dam, plus run off along the way? Ya I think it will be a while <a href="https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/laughing.gif" border="0" alt="" title="laughing" >:-)</a>

Coming down from Meadow lake is an option, but having done that either memorial or 4th of July in 2017 it gets boring quick. On the other hand we missed the daisy chain disaster at Committee, so I guess the entertainment was there, we just missed it <a href="https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/laughing.gif" border="0" alt="" title="laughing" >:-)</a>
Ive only gone in from meadow, down to the crossing just after committee, then turned around and ran back up to meadow, the portion of trail i didnt run that good or?
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I have an inquiry into the Forest Service, but when i last chatted with them (like a month or so ago), PG&E is planning maintenance on the dam at Fordyce Lake this summer/early fall and will be hardening Rattlesnake Rd once its free of snow to bring their heavy equipment in. The indication was to expect high flows except for the week of Sierra Trek until the lake level is down to the point where they can do their work.
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Ive only gone in from meadow, down to the crossing just after committee, then turned around and ran back up to meadow, the portion of trail i didnt run that good or?
Depends on your rig, we were in trail rigs, so wh1 would have been fun. There is some fun stuff on the other side of Committee also. Imo, the whole trail is good, I just didn't like being stuck on only one section.
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I have an inquiry into the Forest Service, but when i last chatted with them (like a month or so ago), PG&E is planning maintenance on the dam at Fordyce Lake this summer/early fall and will be hardening Rattlesnake Rd once its free of snow to bring their heavy equipment in. The indication was to expect high flows except for the week of Sierra Trek until the lake level is down to the point where they can do their work.
Hmmm, I wonder who is doing the project? I'd kill to be on that one.

So I texted a buddy from a company I used to work for, that's does a lot of hydro dam work for pg&e. Sure enough they are doing it and he's the project manager for it. Unfortunately, they won't need any operators

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I have an inquiry into the Forest Service, but when i last chatted with them (like a month or so ago), PG&E is planning maintenance on the dam at Fordyce Lake this summer/early fall and will be hardening Rattlesnake Rd once its free of snow to bring their heavy equipment in. The indication was to expect high flows except for the week of Sierra Trek until the lake level is down to the point where they can do their work.
Ok, so I talked to the forest service guys. They haven't been in anywhere on Fordyce and had zero updates.

However...

One of our Madhatter guys went in thru Meadow with a buddy and ran the trail from WH5 to past WH2, clearing downed trees (like 15+ of them) and assessing the general condition. Things look pretty good on the trail itself. They were able to make the two water crossings before and after WH2. Committee was very high and not passable (they had 42s and at 500cfs it was way too much).

The road into Meadow Lake still had 6-10ft drifts on it but they were obviously able to wheel it. Plenty of snow still at Meadow itself.
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Ok, so I talked to the forest service guys. They haven't been in anywhere on Fordyce and had zero updates.

However...

One of our Madhatter guys went in thru Meadow with a buddy and ran the trail from WH5 to past WH2, clearing downed trees (like 15+ of them) and assessing the general condition. Things look pretty good on the trail itself. They were able to make the two water crossings before and after WH2. Committee was very high and not passable (they had 42s and at 500cfs it was way too much).

The road into Meadow Lake still had 6-10ft drifts on it but they were obviously able to wheel it. Plenty of snow still at Meadow itself.
Thank you for the update! We have a group looking to run up the trail first weekend in August, hopefully we don't have to change plans.
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Anyone up there right now? Curious how much snow is left? I've been up near 7k feet in our hill the past few days and there was less than I expected.
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There's a group on FB that is getting rescued out today. Sounds like they killed 2/3 rigs and spent the night at CC2.

Had a couple buddies go in Thursday and Friday that I haven't heard from. Which is usually good news.
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Meadow Lake

Picked up scanner traffic yesterday early evening, of wanting a chopper at Meadow Lake. ???? Anyone got info?
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Went into Meadow on Sunday. The "Meadow" is clear of snow and dry. The lake is no longer frozen. The campground still has 4-5 feet of snow. Made it over to Winch Hill 5. About 3-5 feet of snow on the road.
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There's a group on FB that is getting rescued out today. Sounds like they killed 2/3 rigs and spent the night at CC2.

Had a couple buddies go in Thursday and Friday that I haven't heard from. Which is usually good news.
tried to find some info on the rescue but zero luck? anybody?
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