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Old 04-08-2012, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Went to put wheel back on and lugs spread?

Either that or the rim shrunk...



I've never seen a problem like this. I had the axle out for a long while contemplating a different sealing strategy, decided to go with what I have and after rewiring and replumbing the rig, put the axle, hub, and brakes back together.
I haven't used any new parts, everything that came off is going back on.
The holes in the rim just aren't lining up. WTH?

Any ideas?

I've measured the distance between the wheel studs on the hub with a digital caliper each of the lugs all the way around, they're identical as they should be. None of them are tweaked outwards. It just sat on a shelf until today when I was reinstalling all the components...

It's the last thing I have to do before getting this rig out to Moab in a few days...

Help!
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Everything exactly the same. No new parts. Same rim, hub, rotor, bolts, everything. Didn't buy anything new, didn't have anything lying around that could have gotten subsituted.

Don't remember any real drama getting the wheel off last time either.
That was over a year ago.
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Maybe your buddies did an April fools joke on you
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nope. It's got to be something else. I'm to the point of enlarging the holes in the rim since the nuts are coned and will self center. In a frustrated moment the vision of tapping the ends of the lugs more towards the center line popped up just to get the nuts started, but there's no way I'm doing that.
Thinking there has to be a more elegant solution or I'm missing something really simple.
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Turn the wheel one hole to the left and try fitting it again.
Repeat until it fits.

If it doesn't fit, something was changed.



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Old 04-08-2012, 07:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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At any time did you remove the studs and then press them back in?

Maybe check the backside of the hub and see if the studs are sitting flush.
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any chance the axle fell or something fell against it and twisted/splayed the studs??

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Any chance the front is a Ford Metric axle and the rear isn't, and you have two different bolt pattern wheels, and maybe you forgot?
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Any chance the front is a Ford Metric axle and the rear isn't, and you have two different bolt pattern wheels, and maybe you forgot?
This was my first thought too.
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Shit.

There's no rule that says that once I ask for help, I then have to fess up when I discover I pulled a bonehead move, is there?
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Fess up.
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Shit.

There's no rule that says that once I ask for help, I then have to fess up when I discover I pulled a bonehead move, is there?
So what was the bone head move? inquiring minds want to know!
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Damn spacer was sitting on the lower shelf under some winch stuff...



Fits nice now!

Nearly killed myself humping that tire to each index twice.

Didn't follow my own rule of disassemble the off side and look for symmetry.
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As penance I'll post up something interesting I found in the attic.....
They're from 1910!

Wonder what the application was and why then ended up in the attic space of all places.



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Maybe your buddies did an April fools joke on you
Dead on. Thanks for the advice all.
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Turn the wheel one hole to the left and try fitting it again.
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Dead on. Thanks for the advice all.
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