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Old 03-18-2016, 09:11 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I have 3 Jeeps, a 4x4 truck, and a rock buggy. I have ran:

MTR Kevlars
KM2s
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Nitto Trail Graplers
Pro Comp
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THE BEST combo trail/street tire I have ever ran is the Nitto Trail Grappler. Close second choice would be the Toyos.

Unlike the KM2, Pro Comp, and Maxxis, the Trail Grapplers run true to size. Unlike the MTR and Irok, the Trail Grapplers always balance very well. Unlike the Baja Claws and Iroks, the Trail Grapplers have excellent street manners. Unlike the Pro Comp, KM2, and MTR, the trail grapplers have tough sidewalls. Unlike the Radial treps, Pro Comp, and Claws, the Trail Grapplers really hook-up in all conditions off-road and really excel in the rocks. Unlike the Iroks and Claws, the Trail Grapplers last a long time.
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Have you seen the new procomps? The mt2's? Sidewall greatly improved. And my balances very well with bags. Especially for 40's
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My pro-comp 40s measure bang on 40
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:34 PM   #104 (permalink)
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My nittos measure 40.25 I have them on trail gear beadlocks and have crawled all over and run them up to 90 mph on the highway on my tj no balancing and smooth as glass. Awesome tires.
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Have you seen the new procomps? The mt2's? Sidewall greatly improved. And my balances very well with bags. Especially for 40's
I don't know if these are the new design or not, but they don't last long on rock buggies.

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I don't know if these are the new design or not, but they don't last long on rock buggies.

One picture does not give a fair representation of the tire. You hit any rock square on at speed and you're going to have issues. For the price and warranty and tire construction, the new pro comps are very hard to beat as an all around tire
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I don't know if these are the new design or not, but they don't last long on rock buggies.

Is this your setup ? That's the only pic I've seen of one messed up be interesting to hear more from people using them.
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Old 03-29-2016, 08:11 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Hows the road noise from the ProComp MT2's? I drive 500 miles usually each way for a weekend of wheeling. I will be coming from the old MTR's, with entire lugs missing, just for reference.
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Old 03-30-2016, 06:09 AM   #109 (permalink)
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The road noise isnt to bad on the procomps i think its about the same as any mud Terrain i have them on a ram 2500 so even being a heavy truck the noise is fine, as far as traction offroad i think they are better than the others posted above, after running them on my buggy and tow rig i think they are a great tire on and offroad!! I VOTE PROCOMP!
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:43 PM   #110 (permalink)
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I just got back from Moab and my nitto trail grapplers ate up everything. We walked up double whammy barely spinning the tires. I'm completely sold on these tires now and have no need to look anywhere else. We rode with a few people with different tires including 42" superswamper tsl, military Goodyear 37 on a 4 dr jk, 37" Goodyear kevlars on a cj5 the good years and the nittos had the most tire flex, they really molded around the rocks compared to the other 2. And it seemed that the nittos would slip less on the rocks most climbs did not require bumping just a slow crawl and tires might chirp a couple times.
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I don't know if these are the new design or not, but they don't last long on rock buggies.
I've ran 3 KOH EMC races on the MT2's. Finished every race and only one flat in 3 years. I'd say their a pretty solid tire. The hit the flatted the tire. Would've flatted any tire.
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I have 3 Jeeps, a 4x4 truck, and a rock buggy. I have ran:

MTR Kevlars
KM2s
Iroks
Radial Treps
Toyo MTs
Nitto Trail Graplers
Pro Comp
Baja Claws

THE BEST combo trail/street tire I have ever ran is the Nitto Trail Grappler. Close second choice would be the Toyos.

Unlike the KM2, Pro Comp, and Maxxis, the Trail Grapplers run true to size. Unlike the MTR and Irok, the Trail Grapplers always balance very well. Unlike the Baja Claws and Iroks, the Trail Grapplers have excellent street manners. Unlike the Pro Comp, KM2, and MTR, the trail grapplers have tough sidewalls. Unlike the Radial treps, Pro Comp, and Claws, the Trail Grapplers really hook-up in all conditions off-road and really excel in the rocks. Unlike the Iroks and Claws, the Trail Grapplers last a long time.
I call BS on the true to size and hooking up on the Pro Comp's. They are one of, if not the tallest tires I have measured. As for hooking up. I'd take the Pro Comp over any of the above listed tires in the rocks.

Give me a few and I'll find the pics of the Pro Comps next to other tires I have compared.

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Old 03-30-2016, 08:58 PM   #113 (permalink)
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I call BS on the true to size and hooking up on the Pro Comp's. They are one of, if not the tallest tires I have measured. As for hooking up. I'd take the Pro Comp over any of the above listed tires in the rocks.

Give me a few and I'll find the pics of the Pro Comps next to other tires I have compared.

Next to a BFG KO2.
I just traded in my 4 brand new procomps for 5 trail grapplers (Was a good Deal)
The procomps were bang on 40 and these grapplers are 39.5...Grapplers are noticeably heavier but I like the sidewall much better than the M/T2s
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:45 PM   #114 (permalink)
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mt2 seems to be a newer tire?
just here to see about sidewall failures. it's the reason i wont run mtr/k's, mastercraps(for obvious reasons), so some other tires.
currently on military bfg bajas's (grooved) while they don't balance very well, they'd take a machete to the side wall , and not too bad on the rocks at 8-10 psi

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I run the pro comp xmt2's in 35's on my DD/ww Tj. Excellent traction in snowy conditions. Wear very well, and aren't half as loud as the MTZs they replaced. They measured 34 3/4" on 8" wide steel wheels with 22 lbs of air.

I will probably try these in a 37" the next time around.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:23 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Just killed two 35 x 12.5 x 15 Swamper SSR's this weekend. I can't decide what to go with. I got the swampers used. Thinking about creepy crawlers or Cooper STT Pro and buy somewhere that I can get the certificates for replacement.

I've gone through two sets of MTR. They seem good at first, but fall apart after 50% tread.

I don't DD mine, but sometimes drive 2 hours to the trail.

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I run 37" bfg stickies as my normal summer wheeling tire on my buggy, But I also have a set of the cooper stt Pros in a 37" for my snow and regular trail wheeling that requires road miles and dirt roads that love to eat the stickies. They do Very well. Ran the cooper stts prior. The STT Pro's are an awesome all around tire. For a "mortal" tire, the compound is fairly sticky and do very well on most all terrains. They can hang most all the same lines I run the sticky tires on a few local trails I've done with both sets now. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good tire. They have good flex in the tread, don't chip or chunk easily, warm up nicely when needed, sidewalls take a good beating and laugh. Sipes seem to very well in the snow and ice and they float well for the deeper snow. But they have no issue digging deep holes with heavy foot in the deep snow. lol

I just put them on my DD samurai in a 31" flavor as well and also love them on that too. Nice to have an aggressive tire that actually is round and needs very little weight to balance.

My understanding is that they are same carcass as the procomp's mentioned above (same parent company). Just a slightly different compound
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I run 37" bfg stickies as my normal summer wheeling tire on my buggy, But I also have a set of the cooper stt Pros in a 37" for my snow and regular trail wheeling that requires road miles and dirt roads that love to eat the stickies. They do Very well. Ran the cooper stts prior. The STT Pro's are an awesome all around tire. For a "mortal" tire, the compound is fairly sticky and do very well on most all terrains. They can hang most all the same lines I run the sticky tires on a few local trails I've done with both sets now. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good tire. They have good flex in the tread, don't chip or chunk easily, warm up nicely when needed, sidewalls take a good beating and laugh. Sipes seem to very well in the snow and ice and they float well for the deeper snow. But they have no issue digging deep holes with heavy foot in the deep snow. lol

I just put them on my DD samurai in a 31" flavor as well and also love them on that too. Nice to have an aggressive tire that actually is round and needs very little weight to balance.

My understanding is that they are same carcass as the procomp's mentioned above (same parent company). Just a slightly different compound
Been wondering about these. The tread kinda reminds me of a Pitbull Rocker Lite. I have the rocker radials and while they are awesome on the trail, they are getting to be rough as shit for 1-2hr drives to get there.
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I run 37" bfg stickies as my normal summer wheeling tire on my buggy, But I also have a set of the cooper stt Pros in a 37" for my snow and regular trail wheeling that requires road miles and dirt roads that love to eat the stickies. They do Very well. Ran the cooper stts prior. The STT Pro's are an awesome all around tire. For a "mortal" tire, the compound is fairly sticky and do very well on most all terrains. They can hang most all the same lines I run the sticky tires on a few local trails I've done with both sets now. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a good tire. They have good flex in the tread, don't chip or chunk easily, warm up nicely when needed, sidewalls take a good beating and laugh. Sipes seem to very well in the snow and ice and they float well for the deeper snow. But they have no issue digging deep holes with heavy foot in the deep snow. lol

I just put them on my DD samurai in a 31" flavor as well and also love them on that too. Nice to have an aggressive tire that actually is round and needs very little weight to balance.

My understanding is that they are same carcass as the procomp's mentioned above (same parent company). Just a slightly different compound
Awesome, thanks for the info!

These are my first choice so far. I was thinking of something more aggressive like a Creepy Crawler, but figured they might not be very nice on the road and might wear out faster. With the Cooper, I can find a place to sell the replacement certs. So leaning in that direction.
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My understanding is that they are same carcass as the procomp's mentioned above (same parent company). Just a slightly different compound
Cooper use to make Pro Comp's tire. The MT2's are made by Maxxis.
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I'd say KM2s are pretty damn wicked, they seem to be wearing kind of quick(IMO) on the truck I'm referring to as it's the only one I have experience with. That being said, they are road driven with spools f&r, I'd say half 60% tread after 1 year of wheeling/part time DD.

They kick ass in mud. They do very well on rocks. In the snow they're beyond impressive, but only at very low air pressures. Even at around 15psi, they dig too much in any type of snow. At 6psi we're having no issues at all. They're not real cheap, though.

I'd say more on road, but wheeled, Cooper Disc STTs.
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I'd say KM2s are pretty damn wicked, they seem to be wearing kind of quick(IMO) on the truck I'm referring to as it's the only one I have experience with. That being said, they are road driven with spools f&r, I'd say half 60% tread after 1 year of wheeling/part time DD.

They kick ass in mud. They do very well on rocks. In the snow they're beyond impressive, but only at very low air pressures. Even at around 15psi, they dig too much in any type of snow. At 6psi we're having no issues at all. They're not real cheap, though.

I'd say more on road, but wheeled, Cooper Disc STTs.
The main problem with the KM2 is the weak side walls. I've seen too many of them get side wall punctures.
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I keep hearing people say that the Nittos are as good as it gets for a 80 MPH safe tire that actually works and holds up offroad.
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The main problem with the KM2 is the weak side walls. I've seen too many of them get side wall punctures.
Also, the 37s are barely taller than a true 35, the 38s and 40s are $$$ if you can even get them
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Also, the 37s are barely taller than a true 35, the 38s and 40s are $$$ if you can even get them
True. I have a friend that has the 37's and everyone thinks they're 35's.

I'm probably getting the Cooper. They're $950 shipped for 4 including replacement certs. My main worry was that they wouldn't be able to handle rocks. If I get the certs, I can get them replaced.

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