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Old 03-20-2013, 08:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Wayne's system takes ALL of the worry out of it. The weekend after I put Wayne's baffles in my Ultra4, the foam came apart in my Jeep....taking out the 1 month old fuel pump.
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bump this from the grave

about to re do my fuel system and dont want to run foam as fuel around my parts eats it in about 6 months time. looking for feed back on the old oil bottles and how thats holding up
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looking for feed back on the old oil bottles and how thats holding up
Pick up an oil bottle, note the recycling number on the bottom, use Google to figure out what type of plastic that number corresponds to and how well that plastic tolerates whatever fuel you'll be putting in the fuel cell, there's your answer.
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I will mimic the question already asked a few years ago

Unless you have a sanctioning body checking, why run baffling?
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:42 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I will mimic the question already asked a few years ago

Unless you have a sanctioning body checking, why run baffling?
as on right now im not racing so its not an issue but have been looking at a few events and some of them call for it so just thinking ahead in case i run into it.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:37 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I will mimic the question already asked a few years ago

Unless you have a sanctioning body checking, why run baffling?
Trail rig? Just let the fluid hammer slam back and forth in your cell.

Going fast with 30 or 40 gallons, or more? Put baffles in it to keep the fluid hammer controlled.
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I've been running 32 oz Gatorade bottles in my 22 gallon cell for 3 years. I pulled the plate off and squeezed them and they are still rigid. It dose take A LOT of them but I drink a few everyday so to me it was a free upgrade.
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Trail rig? Just let the fluid hammer slam back and forth in your cell.

Going fast with 30 or 40 gallons, or more? Put baffles in it to keep the fluid hammer controlled.
Pretty much where I was going with that

I have talked to a bunch of guys that are for some reason worried about not having some sort of baffling (foam, or trap doors, or plastic, or whatever) in their tanks when they are just trail riding. I haven't ever run anything in any of my tanks and never had a single issue out of it. But if its required by something you are racing in...then you are pretty well shoehorned into needing something; and at that point $200 - $300 for the purpose built baffling is a drop in the bucket.
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I've been running 32 oz Gatorade bottles in my 22 gallon cell for 3 years. I pulled the plate off and squeezed them and they are still rigid. It dose take A LOT of them but I drink a few everyday so to me it was a free upgrade.
Probably the best tech on Pirate since I found out you can make catch cans from water bottles
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I've been running 32 oz Gatorade bottles in my 22 gallon cell for 3 years. I pulled the plate off and squeezed them and they are still rigid. It dose take A LOT of them but I drink a few everyday so to me it was a free upgrade.
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Probably the best tech on Pirate since I found out you can make catch cans from water bottles
well guess in not taking my bottles back this weekend and will have to go through them and see what i have as know there are lots of Gatorade bottles in them bags im also running the water bottle catch cans, but i got fancy and used bulk head AN fittings
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I am still running the original foam in a cell I bought in 2005.
Am i just lucky? Or is our fuel down here better/different?

I do have a steel basket type thing around the pickup about the the size of a beer can chopped in half to stop the foam trying to migrate to the pump. Not sure how much that would help with longevity though...
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i have had a few customers add alltech baffles after their AL tank split and from what they say it cured the issue. now there a lot of factors that could cause the tank split but fluid hammer is a very plausible reason. tank construction and mount also plays a large part.

i know the oil bottle trick is used in the sandrail crowd quite a bit.
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i have had a few customers add alltech baffles after their AL tank split and from what they say it cured the issue. now there a lot of factors that could cause the tank split but fluid hammer is a very plausible reason. tank construction and mount also plays a large part.

i know the oil bottle trick is used in the sandrail crowd quite a bit.
I'm with you, I wholeheartedly agree that mount setup plays a MASSIVE role in tank strength. If a tank is captured on all sides and really strapped in (think like an artec style mount) it is going to be nearly infinitely stronger than one that is just bolted in with a few 3/8 bolts on some weld bungs.

I am part of the no baffle, 15 gallon alum tank crowd...but mine is captured in all planes and its not going anywhere. I have never had a single issue out of it. I told myself that if I did, I would do the oil bottle trick... but with the alltech baffles being cheap enough for that small amount, will probably just buy those if I need them honestly.
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