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Old 09-13-2003, 11:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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38.5X15 bogger

Finally got to see the new 15-wide 38.5 Bogger today. Not bad. No measurements or pictures, but they were mounted on 15X8 beadlocks on the rear of a Jeep shod with 38.5X11's up front.

Here's what I see. From all appearances, they look to be as deep as the 38.5X11's. VERY VERY good news here as those are currently the deepest tires you can get from Interco. The tread blocks are a little larger resulting in fewer lugs overall (counted 14 sets of bigs, littles, & mediums where the 38.5X11 has 15 or 16 sets - tough to tell as I was counting on a muddy tire). Looked a little narrow for a "15 wide", but that may have just been due to the narrow rims. Looked to be about the same diameter as the 38.5X11's also.

On the whole, I'd call it a pretty good split between the 37" & 39.5" sizes. I'll bring my camera to the next race


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I cant wait, Those might be my next new set of tires???
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Old 09-13-2003, 11:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Screw IROKs, gimme a cut set of these.

Around memphis, at least. I'll keep the SXs for rocky stuff

If you own boggers, and see mud, and you still have the little lugs in the rear tires, you don't know WHAT you're missing.
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If you own boggers, and see mud, and you still have the little lugs in the rear tires, you don't know WHAT you're missing.
No, if you haven't cut them to the core & reshaped them, you don't know what you're missing






PROPERLY cut Boggers will have much more than just the little lugs removed. A 39.5" Bogger loses right at FIFTY POUNDS when cut for competition. Depth is right at 1.5" Deep for cut 44's, not sure for 39.5's & 38.5's. Watched a guy take off from a dead stop in a foot of slop today running cut 39.5's on the rear of a 4,700lb Blazer & he pulled the frontend 3' in the air. Couldn't have done that w/o cuts (the 555" Reher-Morrison & big blue bottle didn't hurt either ).



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I don't mean hi-jack..

But I've always wondered why Interco hasn't made a Bogger to fill the gap between the 39.5's and the 44's. I'd be all over a set of 42" Boggers.
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Old 09-14-2003, 12:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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So uh... is this mud crawling or we still into rocks over here
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cool pics of boggers.
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So uh... is this mud crawling or we still into rocks over here
Crawling? Crawling is a slow sport for slow people


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After the SOA, my 35s are lookin pretty puny.....I'm thinking some 39x15 boggers would be right nice.......
......now how to get the GF to understand that they really are neccassary



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Old 09-15-2003, 12:16 AM   #10 (permalink)
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No, if you haven't cut them to the core & reshaped them, you don't know what you're missing.
A lot of flat tires, if that mud is on a stick/stump/sharp object ridden trail.

I love the look, and they're GREAT for mud comps, but not exactly practical on any trail.
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Old 09-15-2003, 01:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Mud Crawling is fun, but some times it just doesnt work out so well.

What I want to know is when Interco is going to make the 49" Bogger.
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I recently saw, A truck wheelin with cut boggers, And holy ish..
They are badass...

Just have to have the power to spin'em in the mud, They will make alot of shit bog that wouldn't normally... But you know what that means...

Btw, does anybody know how much life span cutting them will take out of them?? I was thinkin roughly half??(Only half the rubber??)
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A friend of mine has the only set of these on the east coast. I compared the tread pattern to his spare (37x13x15 Bogger). Visually, the lugs appear closer together with less voids. The lugs also have the squiggly siping (like the IROK's and not like the SSR's). He was running the 39 IROK's before this tire (and after his 37 boggers). He has not had a chance to wheel these new boggers yet, but I think he missed the tread depth on the IROK's on our New England terain.

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About time

I like the 39.5" bogger, but the width and weight is a deal-breaker to me.

The 38.5x15 is a pretty sweet size IMHO... Still would rather have that width on a 39.5 for the extra height, but oh well
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Re: 38.5X15 bogger

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Finally got to see the new 15-wide 38.5 Bogger today. Not bad. No measurements or pictures, but they were mounted on 15X8 beadlocks on the rear of a Jeep shod with 38.5X11's up front.

Here's what I see. From all appearances, they look to be as deep as the 38.5X11's. VERY VERY good news here as those are currently the deepest tires you can get from Interco. The tread blocks are a little larger resulting in fewer lugs overall (counted 14 sets of bigs, littles, & mediums where the 38.5X11 has 15 or 16 sets - tough to tell as I was counting on a muddy tire). Looked a little narrow for a "15 wide", but that may have just been due to the narrow rims. Looked to be about the same diameter as the 38.5X11's also.

On the whole, I'd call it a pretty good split between the 37" & 39.5" sizes. I'll bring my camera to the next race


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Hey Scott have you seen any 35x10.5 boggers yet?
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Hey Scott have you seen any 35x10.5 boggers yet?
Not yet

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I like the 39.5" bogger, but the width and weight is a deal-breaker to me.

The 38.5x15 is a pretty sweet size IMHO... Still would rather have that width on a 39.5 for the extra height, but oh well
Yeah, I think when it's all said & done, this will end up being a really popular tire. Almost all the early Bogger sizes are WAY wide or WAY narrow. This & the 37 are the first sort of "normal" proportioned tires in the line.

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Yeah, I think when it's all said & done, this will end up being a really popular tire. Almost all the early Bogger sizes are WAY wide or WAY narrow. This & the 37 are the first sort of "normal" proportioned tires in the line.

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Not sure if you know, but I would assume this is based off of the existing 38.5x15 TSL carcass, and is the same as shared with the 38.5 Thornbird?
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Not sure if you know, but I would assume this is based off of the existing 38.5x15 TSL carcass, and is the same as shared with the 38.5 Thornbird?
Actually, I would assume different. The 38.5 TSL is a 16 wide & from a casual glance, larger in all ways than the 38.5X15 Bogger. I had a pair of 38.5 TSL's & it took a 15" wide rim to get them down to 37" where a 38.5 Gumbo or Hawg would be about that tall on 10's. This new Bogger looks to be more in line with the Hawg or Gumbo 38.5 than with the 38.5 TSL.

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Actually, I would assume different. The 38.5 TSL is a 16 wide & from a casual glance, larger in all ways than the 38.5X15 Bogger. I had a pair of 38.5 TSL's & it took a 15" wide rim to get them down to 37" where a 38.5 Gumbo or Hawg would be about that tall on 10's. This new Bogger looks to be more in line with the Hawg or Gumbo 38.5 than with the 38.5 TSL.

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That is not good. My 38.5 1/2 tread Gumbo Mudders are 35 1/2" tall on a 10" rim with 10 psi.
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I've been waiting for these 38.5 x 15's for a year, when are they in production and on the shelves? I wanna get my bling bling YJ off of jackstands and onto the trail!
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whats this horseshit about tim? your yj hasnt even been touched yet, and just last month you said you would never get boggers?
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So, where are you seeing these tires wild man? Last time I talked to Interco, I got the skibby on some new sizes - but didn't hear about these till recently.

Way to spread the word - Hardcore Mudcrawling or not! No matter how we try Scott, we'll never be as cool as the Left Coasters!
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Man..I'd love to try these tires out. The height of my pizza cutters are great but they sink too easily in the deep stuff. Hoping these will be the perfect compromise between the 37 boggers I used to run and the way too wide/big 39.5s I don't wanna use.
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