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Old 08-01-2015, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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97 Jeep Wrangler started out as a daily driver. Bought in 2003, and started building it since. Blah blah blah… here is the plan:

Started with:
-97 TJ, 4.0 AX-15
-Locked and loaded HP30 / D44 (for sale)
-98” wheelbase with Rock Krawler long arm kit
-35” MTRs
-Rubicon NV241OR t-case

Baja Jeep Build:
The plan is to build this Jeep into something that can dance through the fast stuff, and walk through big rocks. It will stay street legal… I hope. Looking to have 107-108” wheelbase on 37s. I want this thing to sit low and have a reliable drivetrain. Nick at NV Fab is doing the build, and he does some kick ass stuff.

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FRONT:

-ECGS Built Ford D60 , (65”wms)
-Yukon Shafts,Yukon Grizzly Locker, 5:38 Gears, Yukon Hubs
-Weaver Fab high steer arms (driver and passenger)
-Ruffstuff steering/heims
-PSC Hydro Assist

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-Rock Jock D60 rear with 5:38s and ARB

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-Atlas 4.3 2spd T-case
-2.5 Fox 14" shocks all around
-Rear trailing arms!
-Fox Air Bumps
-Genright 20 Gallon Tank
-Ruffstuff heims for suspension
-Raceline Wheels on 37” MTRs
-Currie Sway Bar
-Other things
-LOTS of fab work

On with the show…

[2003]


[2009-ish]

[2015]






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Old 08-01-2015, 04:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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37" Kevlar MTRs next to unmounted/bald 39" Toyos


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Old 08-01-2015, 05:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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haha send the tow truck either way
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Subbed, my build has similar goals and parts, great start!
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Awesome build, what's the plan for the white truck in background?
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Old 08-02-2015, 10:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Ford ranger getting a complete over haul, desert/short course truck. It will get worked on when my junk is gone
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 08-03-2015, 08:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Nice build. Maybe I missed it but what's the reason for the bolts on the upper links being vertical? Seems like you could potentially reach the end of travel of the joints vs mounting them with the bolts horizontal. Nice work
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Having the heims in a horizontal plane allows them to take the side to side force correctly instead of side loading the heim. Lots of desert trucks go this route.
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What /\ said... those heims are definitely not my limiting factor.
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Having the heims in a horizontal plane allows them to take the side to side force correctly instead of side loading the heim. Lots of desert trucks go this route.
And get the joints closer together for roll center...
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At this point rear end is a roller, so we start on the front.



Atlas II gets bolted up:


Onto chopping the front apart






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Having the heims in a horizontal plane allows them to take the side to side force correctly instead of side loading the heim. Lots of desert trucks go this route.
There's no side loading of joints or links in a 4 link, just tension & compression - push & pull. With the exception of lower links dragging rocks. In Wishbone style suspensions the joints see side loads but not in a 4 link. Seems like all this would do is possibly limit the travel of the joints. I'm sure you'll be fine though. Nice build
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There's no side loading of joints or links in a 4 link, just tension & compression - push & pull. With the exception of lower links dragging rocks. In Wishbone style suspensions the joints see side loads but not in a 4 link. Seems like all this would do is possibly limit the travel of the joints. I'm sure you'll be fine though. Nice build
Wrong. Though most are set up the other way and live just fine, mine included. As long as you run a decent size joint you're ok either way. If the upper links are controlling lateral movement of the axle and the joints are vertical, it is a side load. An engineer would say it's not ideal to side load the heim joint.

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An engineer would say that a linkage with two pin connections cannot carry a side load and all loads will be along the axis between the two joints.
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