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Old 12-26-2015, 06:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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how come no one is making pre cut, weld it your self plate bumper kits?

would like a pre cut plate bumper kit for full size trucks. this $1,000 to $3200 bucks for winch bumpers is great for the big spenders. but there is a market for the people that have the new plasma tables to offer a plate bumper kit that you can weld up at home. hell add options, D rings, fair leads, light sockets, winch mounts, rear bumpers etc.
well who's going to step up?
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Old 12-26-2015, 07:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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would like a pre cut plate bumper kit for full size trucks. this $1,000 to $3200 bucks for winch bumpers is great for the big spenders. but there is a market for the people that have the new plasma tables to offer a plate bumper kit that you can weld up at home. hell add options, D rings, fair leads, light sockets, winch mounts, rear bumpers etc.
well who's going to step up?
You are correct, no one is doing this: https://www.movebumpers.com/

Looks like there are a couple options with a quick google search, but Move is who i've heard of in the past.
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There's a bunch of them out there for heeps as well that are weld it your self
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I bought my rear from tab and slot. I cant seem to find much of the company on ebay now for some reason.
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Search road rhino bumpers on eBay. Welded up a couple of them. Their customer service is shitty. Product is ok. The Chevy bumper I ordered looked like a ford superduty road armor with Chevy brackets. Bumper its self was nice but the fit to the truck was terrible. The one I ordered for a 99-06 superduty fit a little better. But in the end you get what you pay for or get better at fabbing.
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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This is what I got for my Master Jeep (MJ). Great place for DIY bumpers for Jeeps

JcrOffroad: Jeep XJ Cherokee Bumpers

I customized it.









I have seen a few good looking DIY bumper kits for full size trucks on eBay. Im planning on buying 2 for my RAM later.
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If you have a plasma table, why do you need a kit?
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Old 12-26-2015, 11:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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would like a pre cut plate bumper kit for full size trucks.
That's like asking for a "dash trim kit for fullsize trucks". There are literally THOUSANDS of distinct shapes that fall into that category, so why would any single company (or person) even attempt to market ONE product to "fit" so many possible configurations? How much is the TIME worth to come up with such a universally-perfect design?

Depending how you count, I spent between 2 & 10 years coming up with this design, which is "perfect" IMO for '92-96 Bronco & F-series with coil suspension <8500GVWR.



It bolts up to those trucks, but NO others. How much should I sell that DWG file for, and what happens when the first customer turns around & re-sells his copy to 20 other people? Or just posts it free?
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there is a market for the people that have the new plasma tables...
People who buy plasma tables new probably already know how to design & build what they want. That's why they buy their own plasma tables.
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...offer a plate bumper kit that you can weld up at home.
Liability, just for starters. What would you do if you sold a kit to someone, he boogers it together, then rips it off doing something dumb, and it kills a busload of blind orphan nuns with cancer?
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hell add options...
So 10,000 designs aren't enough? Now you want 10 more variations on each design?
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well who's going to step up?
Let us know when your kits go to market.
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how many times are you going to start this same fucking thread?

youve posted this same thread 3 times now
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the other two werent good enough?

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...mper-kits.html

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/gener...mper-kits.html
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That's like asking for a "dash trim kit for fullsize trucks". There are literally THOUSANDS of distinct shapes that fall into that category, so why would any single company (or person) even attempt to market ONE product to "fit" so many possible configurations? How much is the TIME worth to come up with such a universally-perfect design?

Depending how you count, I spent between 2 & 10 years coming up with this design, which is "perfect" IMO for '92-96 Bronco & F-series with coil suspension <8500GVWR.



It bolts up to those trucks, but NO others. How much should I sell that DWG file for, and what happens when the first customer turns around & re-sells his copy to 20 other people? Or just posts it free?People who buy plasma tables new probably already know how to design & build what they want. That's why they buy their own plasma tables.Liability, just for starters. What would you do if you sold a kit to someone, he boogers it together, then rips it off doing something dumb, and it kills a busload of blind orphan nuns with cancer?So 10,000 designs aren't enough? Now you want 10 more variations on each design?Let us know when your kits go to market.
IMO that's a shit bumper so clearly one design doesn't please everyone.

The one I'm working on will have a similar shape in the corners (as will every bumper that's similar to the stock one) but will be thinner (vertically) at the ends and make use of off the shelf steel dimensions since it's basically being built from drops/cutoffs

The liability on a DIY kit isn't a big hurdle unless it's actually poorly designed in the first place.
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would like a pre cut plate bumper kit for full size trucks...that you can weld up at home.
If you have the welding skills you probably have the rest of what you need to do it, so just dive in and do it! I'll tell you it takes a CRAP TON of time to build a plate bumper and weld it up from scratch. I did both the front and rear on mine. If you want it to look all pretty like production bumpers you are going to spend HOURS smoothing out hundreds of inches of seam welds.

Here's the two that I did:

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^^^That's a good looking pair of bumpers right there! Nice work.^^^
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